Skip to content
Woodworking Masterclasses
Facebook Instagram
  • Register Now
  • Video Library
  • GalleryExpand
    • Bedside Cabinet GalleryExpand
      • Assembly Table Gallery
      • Bathroom Cabinet Gallery
      • Bench Stool Gallery
      • Blanket Chest Gallery
      • Bookends Gallery
      • Book Shelves Gallery
      • Breadboard-end Cutting Board Gallery
      • Carrying Tote Gallery
      • Chess Board Gallery
      • Chest of Drawers Gallery
      • Christmas Gallery
      • Coasters Gallery
      • Coat Rack Gallery
      • Coffee Table Gallery
      • Corner Shelf Gallery
      • Craftsman-style Lamp Gallery
      • Dining Chair Gallery
      • Dovetail Boxes Gallery
      • Fly Swat Gallery
      • Frame Saw Gallery
    • Foot Stool GalleryExpand
      • How to Make a Table
      • Joiner’s Mallet Gallery
      • Joiners’ Toolbox Gallery
      • Keepsake Box Gallery
      • Laptop Desk Gallery
      • Leaning Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Mitre Box Gallery
      • Occasional Table Gallery
      • Picture Frames Gallery
      • Rocking Chair
      • Sawhorse Gallery
      • Shaker-Style Bench Seat Gallery
      • Shaker Stool Gallery
      • Sofa Table Gallery
      • Stepladder Gallery
    • Trestle TableExpand
      • Tool Cabinet
      • Tool Chest Gallery
      • Walking Cane Gallery
      • Wall Brackets Gallery
      • Wallclock Gallery
      • Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Winding Sticks Gallery
      • Wooden Plane Gallery
      • Wooden Spokeshave
      • Wooden Tray Gallery
      • Workbench Gallery
      • Other user projects vol. I
      • Other user projects vol. II
      • Submit Photos to Gallery
  • About Us
  • News
  • FAQsExpand
    • General FAQs
    • Workbench FAQs
  • Contact
Account Login
Woodworking Masterclasses

#80

Search
Previous Back to: Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration15 Replies

Welcome! / Forums / General Woodworking Discussions / Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration / #80

  • This topic has 15 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 5 months ago by Eddy Flynn.
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 16 total)
1 2 →
  • Author
    Posts
  • Eddy Flynn
    5 August 2013 at 6:10 pm #16222

    hi guys does the sole of a #80 stanley need to be flattened/polished i finaly bit the bullet and bought a new one the ebay prices for second hand ones are getting silly

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    Mark Armstrong
    5 August 2013 at 6:21 pm #16224

    Eddy answer yes some of Stanley’s standard new tools pretty rough.

    Dagenham, Essex, England

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    5 August 2013 at 6:24 pm #16225

    cheers Mark

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    David Gill
    5 August 2013 at 7:44 pm #16227

    Hi Eddy
    I flattened the back of the one I recently got,it took a while, not as long though that it took be to flatten the back of the blade, it looked like the blades had either been blanked out or cut to size on a guillotine resulting in a rounded cutting edge.
    After felting it worked really well

    Wigan, Lancs. England :

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    5 August 2013 at 8:22 pm #16229

    thanks David i better get to it then no rest for the wicked

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    Timothy Corcoran
    7 August 2013 at 4:14 am #16298

    A few months ago I would have said no. I used mine mainly to smooth rough stock prior to hitting it with the jack, and to scrape off glue squeeze-out. But after using Mr. Sellers method of achieving a positive hook, my cabinet scraper has been transformed into a precision tool. My thanks and gratitude for his blog post on this one.

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    7 August 2013 at 9:45 am #16301

    thanks for your response Timothy i am half way through flattening it (not as easy as it sounds) i will stay at it though

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    15 August 2013 at 5:41 pm #16620

    am i the only person on here that can’t get a # 80 to take anything more than “dust”off a piece of wood im about to see if its any better as a boomerang i have tried to follow all the instrucions on this site and others but no better is it just me .
    will there ever be a video howto on here i know they are not an expensive tool but i’d like to get some use out of it thanks

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    jgust747
    15 August 2013 at 5:57 pm #16621

    Eddy, What type of wood are you trying your scraper on? Cabinet scrapers are best used on hardwood. if you are using it on softwood it might produce “dust” like you say.

    Dallas, Texas

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    15 August 2013 at 6:07 pm #16622

    thanks Johan it is being used on oak

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
    cpetersen1970
    15 August 2013 at 6:59 pm #16623

    Eddy, I have struggled somewhat with my scraper as well. I have a #81, which although different from the 80 in some ways is essentially the same tool as far as how it works. I’ve found a few things helped me, mostly through trial and error.

    1. Sharpen that blade to the utmost of your ability. I think it is just as important to the functioning of the tool to have it as supremely sharp as possible as it is for say a smoothing plane. This may or may not be useful to you, as I’m sure you know how to sharpen, but it gave me a better idea as to how to approach this particular tool:

    http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/sharpening80cabinetscrapers.aspx

    2.several things make decent burnishers in a pinch. The key is that it must be as perfectly smooth as possible; hardness is secondary. Scraper blades are somewhat softer than typical plane irons.

    3. Be very delicate when turning the hook, and don’t try to make it to “strong”…you should just barely be able to feel it. If the hook feels uneven, ragged or *very* pronounced, remove it, hone again and try again.

    4. Try rotating the tool forward slightly, so that the front edge is angled downward into the wood a couple of degrees and the trailing edge is angled up a couple degrees; imagine the tool being a lever along the axis of travel with the edge of the blade as the fulcrum. Try pushing it this way to get a little better bite and less “chatter” or simply riding atop the wood.

    5. Try lowering the blade a little. Get a little more of the blade showing and it will take a thicker shaving. This is hard to do on a scraper compared to a bench plane, obviously due to the lack of mechanical adjuster; you have to do it yourself. I’ve had good luck with two methods. One way is to lay the tool down flat, with the blade in it but not tightened, on a flat piece of soft wood. Holding the tool down flat, Push the blade downwards with a firm pressure while tightening the retaining screws (not the thumb screw). Play with the pressure of the thumb screw to change the shavings also; it will force the blade into a slight curve like a card scraper. You can also put a sheet of paper under the front of the tool to give a little more clearance to get a little more blade exposure.

    Tuning the scraper for use is definitely challenging, no doubt. I found it to be a fair bit trickier than my bench planes, mostly because it involves less mechanical precision and more intuitive adjustment going by “feel”.

    Don’t give up! When it clicks for you it will be immensely satisfying.

    Full disclosure: I also bought a new blade for my scraper from Hock tools since the one that came with it was a home-made monstrosity that I couldn’t get to take a decent edge for anything. The Hock blade is *outstanding*.

    Also, still feel far from having absolute mastery over this tool; but at least feel as though I can get some positive results.

    Settings
    David Gill
    15 August 2013 at 8:04 pm #16626

    Hi Eddy
    Are you sure the back of the blade is polished right up to the end, as I said I found the back of the blade had a round edge as if it had been blanked out on a press or cut with a guillotine.
    Paul has a blog showing you how to sharpen the blade.

    Wigan, Lancs. England :

    Settings
    George Bridgeman
    15 August 2013 at 10:18 pm #16632

    It appears there are a few of us having problems with this tool.

    Thanks for sharing your trials and tribulations, Chris. Sounds like you’ve put a lot of time into trying to get the tool to sing! I’ve not had much luck with the #80 (or scrapers in general) so will give it another go this weekend and try your suggestions.

    I followed David’s thought and had a quick search on Paul’s blog for information on sharpening cabinet scrapers and found this: http://paulsellers.com/2012/11/faithfull-80-bench-cabinet-scrapers-ok/

    George.

    "To know and not do is to not know"

    Settings
    Paul Sellers
    15 August 2013 at 10:45 pm #16637

    I did a blog on this a few weeks ago to counter an article in Fine Woodworking. Did you know that you should get good and fine shavings even of the back face is not polished? Did you know that you can stuff the blade in a angle guide in the same way you can use it with plane irons? Doing this gives you a dead 45-degrees although anywhere near that works. here is the link, but you can burnish straight off of the file and get good results too.

    Settings
    Eddy Flynn
    15 August 2013 at 11:56 pm #16639

    thank you all for your help i will try ive come to the conclusion i will not be beaten by a tool that generations before me have used with great ease i’m sure putting a positive hook on a piece of steel cant be that hard .

    Eddy .. Liverpool, Merseyside, UK
    ,

    Settings
  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 16 total)
1 2 →
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Log In

Security and Payments

Payments on this site are processed using stripe.com and gocardless.com. Customer's credit card details or bank details are stored on the secure servers of stripe.com or gocardless.com This entire site is secured by SSL.

About Our Company

Woodworking Masterclasses is a trading name of Rokesmith Ltd

Rokesmith Ltd



About Rokesmith Ltd | Privacy Policy | Terms and Conditions | About Us


Useful Links

© 2023 - Rokesmith Ltd

Loading...
  • Register Now
  • Video Library
  • Gallery
    • Bedside Cabinet Gallery
      • Assembly Table Gallery
      • Bathroom Cabinet Gallery
      • Bench Stool Gallery
      • Blanket Chest Gallery
      • Bookends Gallery
      • Book Shelves Gallery
      • Breadboard-end Cutting Board Gallery
      • Carrying Tote Gallery
      • Chess Board Gallery
      • Chest of Drawers Gallery
      • Christmas Gallery
      • Coasters Gallery
      • Coat Rack Gallery
      • Coffee Table Gallery
      • Corner Shelf Gallery
      • Craftsman-style Lamp Gallery
      • Dining Chair Gallery
      • Dovetail Boxes Gallery
      • Fly Swat Gallery
      • Frame Saw Gallery
    • Foot Stool Gallery
      • How to Make a Table
      • Joiner’s Mallet Gallery
      • Joiners’ Toolbox Gallery
      • Keepsake Box Gallery
      • Laptop Desk Gallery
      • Leaning Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Mitre Box Gallery
      • Occasional Table Gallery
      • Picture Frames Gallery
      • Rocking Chair
      • Sawhorse Gallery
      • Shaker-Style Bench Seat Gallery
      • Shaker Stool Gallery
      • Sofa Table Gallery
      • Stepladder Gallery
    • Trestle Table
      • Tool Cabinet
      • Tool Chest Gallery
      • Walking Cane Gallery
      • Wall Brackets Gallery
      • Wallclock Gallery
      • Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Winding Sticks Gallery
      • Wooden Plane Gallery
      • Wooden Spokeshave
      • Wooden Tray Gallery
      • Workbench Gallery
      • Other user projects vol. I
      • Other user projects vol. II
      • Submit Photos to Gallery
  • About Us
  • News
  • FAQs
    • General FAQs
    • Workbench FAQs
  • Contact
Login Account

Insert/edit link

Enter the destination URL

Or link to existing content

    No search term specified. Showing recent items. Search or use up and down arrow keys to select an item.
      Search