Buying Woodworking Tools is Becoming Stupid
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Even when you offer pristine tools for sale at half market value, that’s still not enough.
People need to FEEL they’ve outsmarted the seller, bid ’em down, won the day.
In the UK, people examine the Price Ticket at an Antiques Fair, then ask; “What’s you best price on this?”.
In the States they have a saying; “No-one ever pays “Sticker” for a car”.
It’s the triumph they’re looking for, not the product.@juliot, sounds like you have an opportunity there. With no Garage Sales or Car Boot Sales, you only have to find-out where the dealers get their stocks, and join-in. Try Newspaper ads, House clearance sales, or Advertise that you’ll buy unwanted tools for “Decoration”.
12 January 2018 at 11:36 pm #436489Of course there are flea markets in Spain.
One of the best deals I ever got was buying a planimeter in Barcelona for just a couple, pesetas ( ok, it was a while ago).
And if you are in southern Spain, take the ferry to Morocco. The place is crawling with fairs.
13 January 2018 at 12:12 am #436523I bought a superb 071 for £35 about 3 years ago, at the time after I thought oh I shouldn’t have spent that much……I decided (stupidly) 9 months ago that I didn’t need it?? So sold it for £65 “that’s a result”
I thought. Soon after they started to really climb!!!MADE MY OWN……WORKS A TREAT….PLUS FOLLOWED PAULS …POOR MANS ROUTER VID……SO NOW HAVE TWO
Here’s a list of what Stanley and Record router planes have actually sold for on eBay UK recently:
If you are in the market for one of these tools, you might want to copy the search terms that I used.
Dave
15 January 2018 at 2:34 pm #439290Ended up getting a 71 for £55 so can’t complain, though I do have a question – people claim the depth stop ends up getting lost or not used so it’s not a major issue but it seems my plane doesn’t even include the threaded hole for mounting one!
Anyone have any information on this?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.16 January 2018 at 1:01 am #439810I don’t know much about record versions, but Stanley types 4 to 7 had the mouth closer attached to the retainer collar. Perhaps Record was similar.
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/routers/stanley/stanley_71.html
Your best bet is to source a Stanley collar and closer on the web or a wood shoe. Looks like a great find.
And you will get more depth if you reverse the adjuster nut, as it was originally intended.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Larry Geib.
I can’t understand why Record would make a tool like this.
Not only is there no hole for the throat closer/depth stop but the part of the casting at the top of the “arch” where it would go is missing.
Obviously this was made to be sold for a few pence less than the “full” version but why not just sell the closed throat version, as shown in Daniel’s avatar? That would at least be useable on narrow stock without using a wooden subbase.
That’s not to say that Daniel got a bad tool or overpaid for it. It should work as well as the “bells and whistles” version for almost everything and it’s easy enough to make a subbbase for use on narrow stock.
Dave
Hi Daniel, Your Record 071 was on eBay with a broken Depth-Gauge Casting.
Its been filed smooth and repainted in that area.
Not a problem though, the Depth Gauge was a load of rubbish – trying to appeal to the Plough Plane market. You’re better-off without it.
Close the throat with a wooden sole and reverse the cutter for ‘open’. Early Stanley 71’s managed without them.16 January 2018 at 6:57 pm #440383Thanks for the information, I’ll make a hardwood sole for it and forget about it! I did figure the depth gauge obscures vision quite a lot so just flipping it around for open cutting sounds fine.
Saw a lovely Vintage Stanley 71 on eBay with the old ‘STAN’ ‘LEY’ casting. Beech knobs with arch, no gauge, no shoe, no bracket, no fence. I lost sight of it at about £120. Same functionality as yours.
I had SIX routers until recently.
How many of them with truly VERTICAL (free-falling) Gauges? None.
Accurately VERTICAL Cutters? None.
Shoes PARALLEL to the sole? None.
Fences? Two out of the six. Fence-screws? None.
I don’t think these got lost. More-likely thrown away!
Graticules on the side of the Cutters looked nice. Inaccurate as soon as you sharpen the Cutter.My advice is don’t go looking for a Fence and stuff.
If you want to work on narrow boards, simply use a Plough Plane. The ‘Narrow Boards’ concept was to justify the impractical gubbins. How else were they going to sell a new router to a craftsman who’d used a wooden one for 50 years?Paul’s pictured these routers in his book – illustrating how the attachments were intended to work.
His comment is ‘if designers thought them worth adding, they must have a purpose’. Yes – marketing.
You’ve never see Paul use any of those so-called “bells & whistles”. I doubt you ever will.(anyone seen my blood-pressure tablets?)
17 January 2018 at 4:34 am #440732Yes make your own……look on utube for ideas…..mine works a treat and with Rise and fall
18 January 2018 at 9:00 pm #442559Okay so I’ve managed to use it today for a bit of a test on some ply I had laying around, works great after I spent an hour sqauring off the blade – took about a dozen checks putting the blade gently into the wood to ensure it was interfacing evenly.
Next question though!
If you had to have one block plane, No 60 or 9 1/2? Pros and cons to each would be nice. Understandably in a perfect world you get all the tools but since a block plane is the last missing bit in my set just wondering which one is wroth looking for first.
Thanks all.
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