Complaining on the rise?
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1 July 2017 at 1:36 pm #313387
Is it just me or is complaining on the rise in WWMC? Video is too long, video is too short. Video didn’t show how Paul Sellers brews his tea which is an integral part of how he works, therefore students aren’t getting what they’re paying for. Video didn’t show stock preparation even though multiple other videos go into stock prep in detail. What gives?
I have been a member of WWMC since early 2015 and was always amazed at how cordial and respectful the comments and forums were. Now the evil internet trolls seem to have infected a once informative and respectful forum.
Complaints about woodworking videos should be directed in private email to WWMC, not out loud and in public in the forums.
Here here! I guess with greater popularity comes a greater attraction of marginal critics. The team at WWMC puts out high-quality material that they can stand behind and be proud of. They’ve made changes here and there where appropriate to satisfy some of the more reasonable criticisms (fast forwarding through repetitive joinery or just skipping some of it). If anything, the production value has gone up, not down. I think they’re doing it just right.
1 July 2017 at 3:48 pm #313390I completely agree. I still don’t think there is any other woodworking teaching on the internet that comes close to WWMC.
I for one have nothing but praise for Woodworking Master Class. This web site is a great value. I feel that I have gained years (if not decades) of experience because of the detail in the project videos. In just less than 1 year, I have built Paul’s workbench, 9 clocks, 1 rocking chair, 3 chess boards, 10+ dovetail caddy boxes, 4 of the dovetail boxes with lids, 5 canes, 4 sets of bookends, 6 sets of coasters, a sofa table, and I am now working on my second keepsake box.
Keep up the great work!
- This reply was modified 6 years, 9 months ago by Clifford.
I think this is a great site, great community, awesome content. You can feel the love that the WWMC team puts into everything. It reminds me of n2ncu.org, lots of work goes on behind the scenes and it’s all for a greater purpose.
So, instead of ccomplaining about complainers, let’s go make something good!
I’ve been a member here since 2015 and I’ve built many of the projects on this site. I have no complaints about the content or the instruction. When I find an error I take it the source and Paul’s team has always responded with clarification or have fixed the issue if it was valid. Posting complaints on the forum doesn’t do anything except draw attention to yourself, which may be the intent. But is that complaining about the complaining? If you have time to complain you have time to work… I heard that somewhere in my youth!
16 July 2017 at 9:59 am #313753I’ve no problem with complaints if they are truly valid and not just nit-picking. Even then as Sandy says, if you have a genuine complaint go directly to the team and they will put it right if they can, or take on board what has been brought up I’m sure. Personally, I have found every video to be exactly what I want and need in order to progress with my own woodworking.
You know there comes a time when even an apprentice has to stand on their own two feet and make their own decisions. Paul may like to let his tea brew for five minutes, add two sugars, stir it counterclockwise 4 times and clockwise 4 times exactly……but you may not like your tea that way….so just get on and make it!
As for value for money….the WWMC has to be the best value instructional websites there is out there. A website manned by experts and a master craftsman teacher whose knowledge is priceless, all of whom are approachable and friendly (I know because I’ve met some of them at Paul’s book launch and the North of England Woodworking & Power Tool Show). Oh, and not forgetting us, the great unwashed; always willing to give advice and encouragement. In short; as friendly and helpful a bunch of people to be found anywhere.
No complaints here!
7 November 2017 at 2:58 pm #358407[quote quote=313387]Video didn’t show how Paul Sellers brews his tea which is an integral part of how he works, therefore students aren’t getting what they’re paying for. [/quote]
They’re paying for woodworking masterclasses. If they want tea-making masterclasses, there are other (and more expensive) wesites for those. If they want Paul Sellers to show them how to make tea, that also costs extra.
But if they had any sense, they’d know Paul is an Englishman, which means he makes his tea ‘properly’!! 🙂
I try to follow everything Paul does, but no matter how hard I try I just can’t seem to plane things down as fast as he does.
I mean, come on, he can size and plane a whole bunch of pieces in what seems like 30 seconds.
When I try, the wood just flies everywhere, my tea spills (and how does he drink a mug of hot tea that fast!!?), and I end up with shockingly bad pieces. And I play the music and everything…
When oh when will Paul release the “planing at lightning speed” and “speed drinking boiling tea” technique videos?
Darren. 😀
17 November 2017 at 12:28 pm #370102The petty complainers can always cancel their subscription if they aren’t getting what they want out of Paul’s lessons. You have to feel sorry for them as they are missing out on a lot by not focusing on what’s important.
“Debbie Downers” we call them! Not much fun to be around are they.18 November 2017 at 12:26 am #372475Paul & Team, The Complainers I suspect would be a small few. I am sure they do not worry Paul. As you put the wood shavings & saw dust in the bin think of them . What ever you do how well you do it, you will never please everyone. I think you are doing a great job & getting better & better. Plod on team….dave1950.
12 July 2018 at 6:27 am #549283Well, I think the last seven or eight projects have been on a beginners level. I personally would like to see some larger projects.A bed would be nice if it’s more than just rectangles. How about a Grand father clock with emphases. on the top cornice. Anything larger than a coat hook or a simple leaning book rack.
I love the instruction but would like more better projects. I hope that didn’t sound mean or that I want to cause trouble just want to learn more.R. Hames
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