27 June 2016 at 1:56 am #138099
Hey all. I recently acquired an old Stanley #4. When I took it apart. It seamed in good shape except for the ends of the frog. They are not square and look as if small bits have broken off the edges. Will this affect anything and if so can it be corrected. Thanks in advance for your input
Jim28 June 2016 at 4:27 am #138108Matt McGraneParticipant
Jim, we really need more detail and pictures would help a lot. What end are the parts broken off of? I’m not sure if you mean the “feet” where the frog sits on the plane body or the flat part of the frog on which the blade rests. The better description and pictures you can provide, the better we can help.
Matt, Northern California - Started a blog in 2016: http://tinyshopww.blogspot.com/28 June 2016 at 4:15 pm #138125
Thanks for the reply. It is on the front of the feet. It’s chipped away and not square
You must be logged in to access attached files.29 June 2016 at 3:38 am #138146aaronfayParticipant
@jcovais this is common on the later Stanley planes, I’m guessing that the machining wasn’t quite as consistent as it could be. I’d wager you’re probably not going to notice it during operation though. You could possibly sand the contact points down so they make better contact but I would try it out first to see if it’s problematic before modifying the plane.
Does the frog wobble side-to-side when it’s in place in the sole? Or does it seat fairly firmly?
Aaron29 June 2016 at 3:53 am #138147
No the frog seats good enough an there is no wobbling29 June 2016 at 6:30 am #138148aaronfayParticipant
In my opinion, if it seats firmly and the plane operates well, you’re done. “Not operating well” would probably look like chatter or if the frog cannot be tightened down properly or moves during operation. Arguably the frog isn’t “ideal” but if you don’t have any issues during operation, use it and enjoy it 🙂
Aaron29 June 2016 at 6:38 am #138149lukedupontParticipant
I have a frog that looks like that in a No. 3 that I bought on Ebay.
For me, it doesn’t wobble or anything, but it does hold the iron slightly skewed in the mouth, and I can’t seem to completely correct the problem however much I fettle with it. The plane still works surprisingly well, and is not prone to tearout, though.
If the plane still works perfectly fine, I don’t think there is reason to be concerned.29 June 2016 at 7:19 pm #138164Matt McGraneParticipant
@jcovais – I agree with Aaron. If the frog seats well on the plane body, then it is fine. There is no requirement that the front of the frog “foot” be square or non-chipped. If you think about it, when the iron is installed with bevel down (as it should be), then the iron does not touch the frog at your chipped ends. The flat surface of the beveled side of the iron is about 5 mm further back from the cutting edge.
What I didn’t see in your picture is the underside of the frog, showing the feet and the other area where the frog sits on the body. Even with the non-square area at the right front of your frog, the underside should still have a good flat to mate with the body.
Matt, Northern California - Started a blog in 2016: http://tinyshopww.blogspot.com/30 June 2016 at 12:54 am #138172
Thanks so much guys….I checked the underside of the feet and they are fine. Thanks so much for all the help!
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