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  • This topic has 8 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 9 months ago by Chris Calant.
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  • Chris Calant
    24 May 2021 at 4:33 pm #714547

    I have this toolbox we had to make for evening class, dates back 25 years. It’s just sitting there, functioning for storing al kinda things I don’t use. 15 years ago, when my wife’s grandmoter died we cleaned out the yard and I took a couple of tools with me, tools that belonged to her grandfather. Those tools went in the ” storagebox ” too, just because I did not know what they were ment for, but I liked “em, so I kept ’em. Now last week I was going through that box and I came upon a kind of pliers I really couldn’t say what it was, tried to figure out but, no, nothing came up. it had fixed jaws and what can a plier with fixed jaws be for ? ok, put it back in, maybe someday I’ll find it out. Few days later I was looking the net for a sawset…and what came by ? picture looking very much like those ” pliers “, so got it out of the box, searched again and yep there it was….a sawset…an antique Garantoska Fix II. restored it today, actually only had to take a little rust of…..I’m very happy with it, my wife’s happy with it as I’m gonna use a tool that belonged to her granddad…so far the little story

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    Larry Geib
    25 May 2021 at 9:39 am #714636

    That’s a saw set. Probably German made by Garanto Fein DRGM or Henry Boker. Fein made variations from 1860 to post WWII. That scale pattern was common to the two manufacturers.

    See if you can make out any engraving on the oval flat on the lower handle.

    The Fein logo will look like the attached picture. Some models are collectible. Yours is missing a knurled thumbscrew on the nose that determines the amount of set.

    Don’t ask me how to use it. I haven’t a clue.

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    Benoît Van Noten
    25 May 2021 at 11:14 am #714652

    I have one but without the top screw (plate thickness adjustment?)
    on the other side it says made in Germany.

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    Benoît Van Noten
    25 May 2021 at 2:38 pm #714677

    I have found my other one.
    No trade mark, no indication of provenance.
    The “plunger” is triangular shaped while on the other one it is simply rounded.

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    Chris Calant
    25 May 2021 at 3:05 pm #714682

    Larry, I think it’s complete…the knurled screw is on the front of the top jaw…the hole on the bottom jaw is not functionable, i’ts closed and has no threads. There’s only one marking on one of the ovals, it says ” Rapid “, maybe the other markings are worn throughout the years….anyway, I do know how it works ..found a demonstration on YT

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    Larry Geib
    25 May 2021 at 5:37 pm #714707

    I browsed around and found a couple like yours that are a model called the “ Fix II “ that say Garanto Fein or Garantoska Fix II that are patent models from 1900-1920.

    One is on eBay for 95€ buy it now, so you have a nice find.

    I think I found the answer for the lump with the hole. It originally was for a spike that allowed you to use the set in a fixed position. I see some examples are threaded, so maybe it wasn’t so useful and they stopped using it. Here is an ad that shows it in use. So it explains the ‘FIX’ labeling.
    Note that in the one for sale the hole isn’t drilled.

    And we now know it is a Sägeschränksangen 🙂

    The ad makes me want to hunt for a Ringschneider.

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    Chris Calant
    25 May 2021 at 7:05 pm #714721

    it is set depending on the length of the teeth….here’s a link, go to 07:50…not the same set but the same principle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo9J71GKNCw

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    Benoît Van Noten
    26 May 2021 at 2:53 pm #714818

    I have paid each one of mine about 5 EUR on flea markets in Belgium about 5 years ago.
    The vendors had no idea what it was.

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    Chris Calant
    26 May 2021 at 5:02 pm #714830

    that’s what so great on fleamarkets, especially in Belgium 🙂 I’m lucky to live in a Belgian place where there’s a weekly flea market and a small salvage yard for tools, just bought me a wole set of auger bits and a small handdril for 20 €

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