Record 044 clean up

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  • #659298
    Gavin Lennox
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    I know I’ve got my work cut out with this one 🙂

    The positive thing is all the parts are present.

    Does anyone have any experience with cleaning up the Record 044 and can share any tips?

    My plan at the minute is to start with a wire brush, though I think this might need a bath in some “rust remover”

    I know it’s never going to be shiny and pretty but if I can get it to good and useable I’ll be chuffed

    Thanks – Gavin

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    #659372
    patchedupdemon
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    I cleaned up a record 050 which was is worst state, you don’t need to buy any expensive rust removal stuff.
    Just wired brush gently, too not remove the nice plating chrome plating, then soak in boiling water and citric acid for a few hrs, keep an eye on it, as it can cause the metal to go a dark color if left too long.
    You can buy citric acid for dirt cheap, 1kg packs off amazon.

    #659382
    Darren
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    Second for the Citric Acid. Amazon is good. It can go black but comes off easily with a brass brush or on a scotch-brite pad or wheel.

    #659399
    Gavin Lennox
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    Thanks guys much appreciated 👍 I’ll make sure to post the results

    #659471
    Larry Geib
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    Citric acid works great. I bet that plane will look pretty good unless there is major pitting.

    If you can’t get citric acid conveniently in these trying times,ordinary white vinegar will do almost as well.
    It just takes longer. Adding salt adds ions to the mix and quickens the reaction. Make sure the plane is fully submerged, even if you have to add water to avoid an etch line ( from experience).

    You might consider a bath with some baking soda to neutralize the acid afterwards.

    And rinse, dry,, and oil immediately or It will start rusting right away. Oxygen goes to town on raw wet clean steel.

    Adding hydrogen peroxide ( oxygen) to salt and vinegar and spraying it on steel is a standard way to add patina . Spray it on, let it dry. Repeat until sufficiently rusty.
    We used to do that to cor-ten steel to get it rusty fast.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by Larry Geib.
    #659531
    Gavin Lennox
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    Thanks for the tips Larry, I’ve ordered the citric acid but being a bit to eager I’ve started a soak in some lemon juice

    #659538
    Rodrigo Rivero
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    Hi Gavin.

    I must agree with Larry´s reply: common vinegar will make an excellent work, it will just take a little longer. At this very right moment I´m restoring an old vintage 5 1/2 Record plane, and the results are amazing.

    Have a nice restoring process!

    #659553
    Larry Geib
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    Hi Gavin.

    I must agree with Larry´s reply: common vinegar will make an excellent work, it will just take a little longer. At this very right moment I´m restoring an old vintage 5 1/2 Record plane, and the results are amazing.

    Have a nice restoring process!

    My old Stanley 5 1/2 is one of my favorites. If I were stuck on a desert island it would be that plane and a number 4.

    It has 2 1/4 inch wide iron which went to 2 3/8” sometime in th ‘20’s. How wide is yours? Show us a picture when you are done..

    Both of you.

    #659903
    Gavin Lennox
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    Well it came up pretty nice 👌 and what a fantastic tool the 044 is. Excuse the different iron being used, again me being a bit to eager to get my workbench apron ready for the well board, though hopefully ordering some 044 irons will soon be on the horizon

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    #659936
    patchedupdemon
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    Sweeeeeeeeeet, looks lovely, have fun

    #659962
    Larry Geib
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    Very nice. Glad you got the old girl back in service. It always makes me smile when a neglected tool gets saved.

    I wouldn’t worry about the irons. I use Stanley 50 cutters in my 043 all the time if I want something besides the original 3 sizes.
    I’ve even been thinking about thinning the skate so 50 beading cutters would work.

    #660212
    Rodrigo Rivero
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    Larry, the iron is 2 3/8 wide.

    Here goes the images as the restoration goes on. It wasn’t in horrible shape before I bought it, but It was in need of rust removal and paint job. The front knob and handle weren’t bad either, I sanded them a little and put some shellac on them.

    What is really giving me trouble is the iron: it has a bump in the rear that it’s almost impossible to manage. I flatten near 1/2 an inch close to the edge, but it’s not good enough. The other problem is the chip breaker: it’s in bad shape (see photo). Any idea on how to work on it? It doesn’t fit properly.

    I will update as I progress on the work.

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