Record 050 skate alignment problem

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  • #554150
    nsmith20nsmith20
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    Hello,

    I just purchased a 50 made in 1949. Its in excellent condition except for 1 thing. The skate that slides on the 2 guide bars is not in alignment relative to the skate on the main body which is causing 3 issues.
    1. The sliding skate sits about 1/16 lower the main body skate.
    2. The sliding skate is also about 1/16 ahead of the main body.
    3. The bed where the blade is supposed to rest is also about 1/16 off from the main body.

    The result of all of this skews the blade when mounted in the plane. Anyone ever see this problem before?

    I can post pics if that would help. It seems like the only solution would be to file the skate bed down which I really don’t want to do.

    Thanks
    Nate

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  • #554151
    Larry GeibLarry Geib
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    @lorenzojose

    Are the bars bent?

    Take them out of the plane and roll them on a flat surface.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by Larry GeibLarry Geib.
    #554155
    nsmith20nsmith20
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    @nsmith20

    The rods are straight. I did adjust them so they were perpendicular to the plane body but that did not fix the issue.

    I have attached a picture that shows the problem. I am now wondering if the sliding skate was not original and was mixed up with a later/earlier model.

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    #554157
    Larry GeibLarry Geib
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    @lorenzojose

    You are probably right. It looks like the skate might not be original.it could also be that the adjustable skate wasn’t used with narrow irons and didn’t wear as much as the fixed one.
    Skates do wear.

    But filing it to match as you first thought is pretty straightforward. It looks like an otherwise good find. It’s not any different than the sort of work Paul shows with bench planes.

    I did the same on a adjustable skate for a Stanley 45. I don’t think you could tell, other than maybe a little nickel loss. You also might have to file the knicker on that side a little or swap it with the other knicker, which might be shorter. But you won’t need the nickers except for dado/housing joints.

    Go slow on the ramp part. I find a little snug fit with the cutter is better than too loose.

    If the offset on the ramped part were reversed, the fix would be a lot harder.
    make sure the skates are reasonably parallel.

    If the fence is out, you can just add a hardwood fence and plane it parallel. A nice rosewood or cocobolo scrap tarts up the plane.

    Fettling the skates on older wooden plough planes is a very common issue. Often the front and rear skates are no longer coplanar.
    It’s just part of owning a tool that outlives you.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by Larry GeibLarry Geib.
    #554159
    nsmith20nsmith20
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    @nsmith20

    Larry. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

    #554162
    deanbeckerdeanbecker
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    @deanbecker

    Just curious your post says a 50 but your skate is a record.
    The record number should be 050 could that be where the difference lies?.

    #554163
    nsmith20nsmith20
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    @nsmith20

    Sorry for the confusion. ITs a 050(all parts). Happy to report I was able to fix the issue by filing the removable skate’s bottom and bed down very carefully. Works great now. 🙂

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