3 September 2015 at 7:30 am #130056
I was wondering if there is anyone who sells refurbished Stanley #4 planes modified to become scrub planes the way Paul has shown in his video. I don’t have the tools needed to do this by myself and therefore I thought of asking to this wonderful community for help.
Alternatively, do you think a German ECE wooden scrub plane would be a valid replacement?
3 September 2015 at 1:34 pm #130061
- This topic was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by gallarotti.
If you can’t find a modified number 4, you might want to consider an old 35. I picked one up in a collection of tools a little while back and didn’t think I would have any use for it since the throat was wider than I liked from wear. It occurred to me to try it as a scrub and it has been working out very well for me. The only work I had to do was to sharpen the blade, the previous owner(s) had done the rest! They seem to go for very reasonable prices on ebay.3 September 2015 at 3:01 pm #130063
Any wooden plane with a large mouth would work too. A wooden smoother with a large mouth would work well. For me, it doesn’t make sense economically to spend much money on a scrub plane. It will only be doing the coarse work.4 September 2015 at 2:07 am #130068
Francesco, it doesn’t really take any special tools to make a scrub plane from a number 4 (I made mine from a #5). I used a regular file to shape the blade and my sharpening plates to refine the edge. I made a paper template with an 8 inch radius drawn on it to get the curvature to transfer to the blade.
Matt, Northern California - Started a blog in 2016: http://tinyshopww.blogspot.com/4 September 2015 at 10:13 am #130076
@mattmcgrane thank you for the advice. I thought that it was needed to use the electric grinder that Paul used in the video. I will then get on eBay to find another #4 🙂4 September 2015 at 3:43 pm #130089
This guy has a number 4 and a 4C for sale at the moment. I’m not affiliated with him and have never bought from him, but the pictures look good. Time Tested Tools4 September 2015 at 4:26 pm #130090
Selling one now look at my site on eBay
Look at redpoppy £9.994 September 2015 at 9:26 pm #130092
You may also want to look at a #3 for a scrub plane. I’ve made one from a store brand #3. The narrower blade seems to work quite well.
"New York is big, but this is Biggar"4 September 2015 at 10:41 pm #130093
Look on Ebay for a Stanley #40. They are the same scrub planes that LN and LV based theirs on, and you can get them for about the same or less than a used #4 on Ebay. I see one on Ebay right now for $28.
There’s the bonus that if the iron is shot you can probably just pop a new one from LN or LV into it and go.
They are narrower, with a really large mouth and curved iron. Just my subjective opinion, but I find it easier to push through and take big shavings off than a converted #4, which felt like pushing a lead block in comparison.
Denver, Colorado4 September 2015 at 11:25 pm #130094
@delong1974 this would be my favorite approach at this point… Unfortunately the only #40 I see are all in the U.S. – customs in Italy are such a PITA that I much rather try to find something within the E.U.5 September 2015 at 1:40 am #130096
Paul’s video on converting a #4 is really all you need.
I did this to a very nasty 1970’s plastic handled Stanley Handyman plane and it works well.
I did use a grinder to shape the iron, but files would work. All the rest is just sharpening kit you need anyway.
A very basic grinder may cost less than a dedicated scrub and find innumerable other uses.
Manxman living in France5 September 2015 at 1:37 pm #130103
@pnj2411 can you recommend a basic one? Keep in mind I have never used one before…5 September 2015 at 2:04 pm #130104
Well the grinder I got was something like this, but with a basic toolrest built in.
It’s cheap and cheerful but for my very occasional use for rough shaping it’s fine.
However if I were to buy now I would be looking for a bigger toolrest with a more positive lock.
Hope that helps.
Manxman living in France5 September 2015 at 2:21 pm #130105
Speaking about #4 Stanley planes, I have one purchased on eBay, which seems to have the frog slightly angled so that the left side of the frog reaches the throat while the right side is still half a millimeter or so away from the throat.
Is there a way to correct this?
Also, can someone show a detail of how close does the blade get to the front of the throat? Mine leaves such a narrow space that often on rough pine it can clog (hope this makes sense) and needs to be cleaned manually to resume cutting.5 September 2015 at 2:28 pm #130106
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