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Trouble with a mortise

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  • #313758
    Mathew Doidge
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    Hi there,

    I’ve been working on my first ever mortise and tennon. I’ve watched lots of Paul’s videos and it looks as if the chisel glides into the wood like butter. I am working with some sort of pine that’s quite old. I’ve sharpened my chisels on oil stones and stropped – to a point where I feel it’s pretty sharp.

    When I start my mortise, I use Pauls technique he teaches in his videos, but I am unable to advance anywhere near as quick through the wood. I can’t understand why it’s feeling so difficult given it’s pine of some type. Could this be down to my chisel actually not being sharp enough or just bad technique?

    Instagram: @apprenticewoodworker

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  • #314551
    Harvey Kimsey
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    @hkimsey

    Agreed! That’s why along time ago I switched to diamond stones. Always flat and ready to go.

    #314553
    Rowdy Whaleback
    Participant

    @rowdy

    Sorry, made a comment about the wrong picture….
    Doh!

    #315322
    Thomas Angle
    Participant

    @tomangle

    The softer the wood, the sharper you need your chisel to be.

    Smithville, TN

    Hebrews 9:27
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    #332026
    D.J. King
    Participant

    @xjumper65

    Much of what has been said is accurate so I will be brief.

    1) Pine is harder to chop because it crushes unless chisels are razor sharp. If you can’t shave hair on your arm, you are not getting sharp.

    2) Get a couple of board feet of HARDwood and make some practice joints until you get reasonably consistent results. It’s not a chore, it’s fun because there’s no pressure like a project. Cherry, walnut, oak, maple, etc., or whatever hard hardwoods are local to you are good choices. Local = less expensive. Poplar is a hardwood, but too soft for what I’m suggesting.

    3) Don’t think of wood as precious. You can always get more.

    4) Find an experienced/good woodworker online, join a woodworking club/guild, go to a show, a living history museum, or take a class. Any of these will allow you to experience a chisel and plane that is truly sharp. You will realize your not even close and I think it will redefine sharp for you. You can hit the bullseye unless you know what it looks like.

    5) Keep working on sharpening. Your oil stones could be glazed over and are not cutting. You may need to flatten them to refresh them. Invest in diamond stones if you can afford them. Worst case, get a piece of granite and flatten/refresh your stones with 60/80 grit sandpaper on the granite. I got a slab of granite from a local cabinetry store’s dumpster/bin for free. Be nice and they may be happy to let you take one home for free. If they seem hesitant offer them $10-$20USD.

    6) Above all keep trying, practice, be patient, have fun, and remember we all started where you are. One day soon it will just click if you stick with it and then you will have a moment of elation and a lifetime of fulfillment.

    Respectfully,
    DJ King
    Hudson Valley, NY

    #345338
    Anthony Rich
    Member

    @infinity-view

    [quote quote=313758]Hi there,

    I’ve been working on my first ever mortise and tennon. I’ve watched lots of Paul’s videos and it looks as if the chisel glides into the wood like butter. I am working with some sort of pine that’s quite old. I’ve sharpened my chisels on oil stones and stropped – to a point where I feel it’s pretty sharp.

    When I start my mortise, I use Pauls technique he teaches in his videos, but I am unable to advance anywhere near as quick through the wood. I can’t understand why it’s feeling so difficult given it’s pine of some type. Could this be down to my chisel actually not being sharp enough or just bad technique?

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    I have had similar trouble, I would suspect your chisels and your technique, lol
    I made a mistake sharpening my chisels using arkansas stones, I put windshield washer fluid on the stone, ( ran out of glass cleaner) and it erroded the soft stone, to wear you cant use that side.
    Purchase eze lap diamond stones 2 x 6 ” 250, 600, 1200 I cannot believe the difference, using just water now, so much faster and easier. I also messed up the original bevel, some of the chisels I accidentally put a micro bevel on them, Fixed them up nice with the diamond stones, easy as pie now. Well At least they cut into the fibers instead of pushing through them.
    https://www.knifecenter.com/item/EZL61C/EZE-LAP-Coarse-Stone-2-inch-x-6-inch-Diamond-Stone
    https://www.knifecenter.com/item/EZL61F/EZE-LAP-Fine-Stone-2-inch-x-6-inch-Diamond-Stone
    https://www.knifecenter.com/item/EZL66SF/EZE-LAP-Super-Fine-Stone-with-Pouch-2-inch-x-6-inch-Diamond-Stone

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by Anthony Rich.
    #345341
    Thomas Angle
    Participant

    @tomangle

    You can put the arkansas stone to the diamond plate and get rid of the pitting.

    Smithville, TN

    Hebrews 9:27
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

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