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  • #123547
    Joe
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    I have the wood for this project coming in Friday, and I want to get started on this project right away. What hardware (hinges/chain/handles/lock?) do you guys recommend, and where to get it in the US?

    Joe in California

    #123550
    Derek Long
    Participant

    There’s always Lee Valley’s large selection of hardware if you don’t mind mail order.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #123736
    YrHenSaer
    Participant

    Hey, Joe…..

    The hinges can be any type of substantial hinge, though if you-re using thin stock for the sides, I’d go for wide Tee-hinges……………

    Locks are a different story.

    Because the lid meets the box-edge face-on, the locks of these boxes were traditionally Crab Locks, sometimes called Claw Locks, it’s the same thing. I have one of these made by my Gt Grandfather in the 1880’s and it has a push-shut Crab Lock.

    This lock is fitted onto or recessed into the front face of the box. The clasping engagement consists of of a pair of hook-shaped segments that recess into the lock when unlocked and emerge into holes in the keep that is fitted into the edge of the lid when locked – it grabs the keep like crab claws, hence the name.

    Don’t know where you get this kit in the States, but they can be – in my experience in the UK – difficult to obtain new, so you may need to look for second-hand items of the right dimensions. Perhaps buy a clapped-out old box and rob the locks…..

    Alternatively, you may clap a hasp and padlock on, but it doesn’t look the part.
    Paul may have other ideas, so lets see what he says in due course.

    Hope that this helps.

    #123738
    Craig
    Participant

    A J,
    One version is the Piano Lock here:
    http://www.rockler.com/full-mortise-piano-lock
    also called by other names and other suppliers.
    Craig

    SW Pennsylvania

    #123756
    gooner
    Participant

    Hey, Joe…..

    The hinges can be any type of substantial hinge, though if you-re using thin stock for the sides, I’d go for wide Tee-hinges……………

    Locks are a different story.

    Because the lid meets the box-edge face-on, the locks of these boxes were traditionally Crab Locks, sometimes called Claw Locks, it’s the same thing. I have one of these made by my Gt Grandfather in the 1880’s and it has a push-shut Crab Lock.

    This lock is fitted onto or recessed into the front face of the box. The clasping engagement consists of of a pair of hook-shaped segments that recess into the lock when unlocked and emerge into holes in the keep that is fitted into the edge of the lid when locked – it grabs the keep like crab claws, hence the name.

    Don’t know where you get this kit in the States, but they can be – in my experience in the UK – difficult to obtain new, so you may need to look for second-hand items of the right dimensions. Perhaps buy a clapped-out old box and rob the locks…..

    Alternatively, you may clap a hasp and padlock on, but it doesn’t look the part.
    Paul may have other ideas, so lets see what he says in due course.

    Hope that this helps.

    I saw a clapped out old joiners box complete with lock and key, but no tills, sold on eBay for £139, yes £139. It was another “upcycled” product being used as a coffee table/magazine box. If this keeps up there will be few complete affordable old tools available for those of us what want to use them for their intended purpose.

    #123762
    YrHenSaer
    Participant

    Earlier I mentioned Crab Locks as being suitable for this type of box. They can be rare to find, but I couldn’t recall where I had seen them.

    Here’s a supplier in the UK:
    http://www.martin.co.uk/products/locks-and-keys/locks
    When you get to the page, you need to look at the first three on the top row, reading from the left.
    In fact, less expensive than I had anticipated. The largest, 4 inch version is about £26.00

    Best regards

    #123772
    kb9jlo
    Participant

    I bought some locks off ebay. I made a tool chest for one of my son-in-laws for Christmas, “Grandpa’s Tool Chest” a Woodsmith Shop plan (much less complicated — but then again I’m a wood butcher).
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-HALF-MORTISE-LOCK-FOR-CHEST-BOXES-DESKS-LIDS-ETC-2-5-8-W-X-1-9-16-H-/271740237265?
    Didn’t seem right to spend more on a lock than the wood for the chest…

    I’m going to use one of these for my joiner’s chest project. I bought several after I made the other chest (I have more son-in-laws!!).

    #123801
    Joe
    Participant

    Nice, how has it held up to use? Thanks for all the replies, very enlightening so far.

    Joe in California

    #123809
    kb9jlo
    Participant

    Well, it’s Chinese (surprise, surprise) but it seems OK. In actual use I don’t suppose it will really be looked that much.

    #124154
    paula
    Participant

    I made a half size version of the Schwarz’ ATC for my nephew using hardware store off-the-shelf ¾” butt hinges but I was using ¾” stock, so you’d have to find something to match your final wall thickness. They’re cheap but they work fine.

    Lee Valley sells something called a japanned steel chest lock. Mine required a little bit of work on the pins to get them to fit right (whack was annoying) but it works great on the chest.

    #124273
    Joe
    Participant

    Thanks @paula. I went with the ebay special locks suggested by @kb9jlo, they probably aren’t as nice as the lee valley ones but much cheaper. I think I’ll look for some off the shelf butt hinges too. It looks like there will be an additional hinge board added to make that bit thicker, but I’m holding off on the hinges for now until I understand what to get better.

    Joe in California

    #124280
    kb9jlo
    Participant

    Agreed Joe in CA (I’m really Dan in IL, KB9JLO is my amateur radio callsign). I’m going to wait to see what that hinge rail looks like.

    They are not bad locks. I bought the last three of his last stock. I had seen that he had replenished them. That seller has quite a bit of hardware.

    Does anyone know how many videos this series will be? I’m not going to be able to subscribe to Masterclass forever but I want to get all these videos. I love this tool chest. I looked at the other one and it is beautiful. I just don’t know my ability will ever be enough for that.

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