16 January 2013 at 8:01 pm #6614
I’d love to see one of those in action. Think he’s right in saying it has to be seen to be believed! Have you read Tony’s book? It’s an incredible read – he does absolutely everything by hand and explains it all really well. George.
Thanks for the recommendation. I will have to get his book. His site has a good deal of information when you follow the links on the margin.
-Scott Los Angeles16 January 2013 at 8:33 pm #6615ejpotterParticipant
There’s a lot of overlap between Konovaloff’s book and website, with the website being mostly extracts from the book. There is a little more in the book, though.
Just moved to NE Ohio28 January 2013 at 7:04 pm #7086jgust747Participant
Has anyone looked at or used Northern Industrial Woodworker’s Vise — 9in (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200413942_200413942)?
Dallas, Texas29 January 2013 at 7:07 am #7140
I have never tried that vise, but I cannot see how it would be possible to manufacture a quality vise that would retail for $35. The parts of a vise are under considerable, continuous pressure during use. In my opinion, you should seek a quality reputation when purchasing a new or used vise.
-Scott Los Angeles29 January 2013 at 7:24 am #7143PhillipParticipant
Anyone consider this one from Veritas? You could install it with the back jaw protruded from the bench top, like Paul teaches us. Thoughts?29 January 2013 at 7:53 am #7147AnonymousInactive
Has anyone used the leg type vise, the more I read about it the more tempted I get to go for it. HaHa the more I read the more confused I get as to witch one to go for. It’s make my mind up time, bench is nearly finished 🙂29 January 2013 at 10:47 am #7152David GillParticipant
From the photo it does not look very deep, it would be worth checking the width depth and opening capacity against the other vices you are considering
Wigan, Lancs. England :29 January 2013 at 12:33 pm #7154FlorianParticipant
since you are the master of links 😉 you probably know the following one:
It’s a workbench series of a – I consider – very talented young man. He made a leg vise and and a tail vise using his own wooden screws and so on. It’s nicely explained and comes along with pictures and videos.
I enjoy working wood in Germany.29 January 2013 at 3:17 pm #7163ejpotterParticipant
Phil, that’s a Veritas-branded vise, so you’re pretty much guaranteed high quality. They always sell good quality stuff, but they only put their brand on the best, usually designed in-house.
Johan, I took a look at that vise and had the same thought as Scott. I recently picked up the Czech-made face vise from leevalley.com, which Paul has moderately recommended and bought for the NY school. It weighs in around 40lbs, and every quality face vise I’ve seen has been in this range. That Northern Tools vise was listed at 13.5lbs. Seems like the castings must be very thin, and maybe they used hollow tubes for guide rods.
Ken, I have a leg vise on my bench. I bought the hardware from Benchcrafted ( http://www.benchcrafted.com/GlideVise.html ). I currently have the standard adjustable pin-stop variety, but this is less useful when following the Paul Sellers method. Paul uses the quick-release and auto-width adjustment features of his vise constantly. For instance, he’ll work on an edge and then quickly flip the piece longitudinally in the vise to work on the face. With the pin-stop leg vise, you have to constantly switch the pin back and forth. This is sometimes a bigger hassle than others, and usually when it becomes annoying, I figure out a different way to do the work. But if I was just starting and didn’t have a vise yet, I would go with the cheaper face vise style that Paul uses. Having said that, my new lust is for Richard Maguire’s pinless leg vise on my next bench. Not currently in the budget. http://www.theenglishwoodworker.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_71&products_id=264
Just moved to NE Ohio29 January 2013 at 4:05 pm #7165AnonymousInactive
Thanks guys, decisions, decisions 🙂29 January 2013 at 6:09 pm #7168jgust747Participant
Thank you for the reply’s. $150 for just the vise is a little bit out of my reach right now.
Dallas, Texas29 January 2013 at 6:26 pm #7169John-Paul TreenParticipant
If someone’s based in the UK, I can’t see how, if someone’s looking for a low-price (less than £60) vise, they’re not going for an old, second-hand ‘Made in England’ Record 51 or 52.
Sure, they’re generally collection-only, but the smaller of the two (the 52?) will go through the post. I got one only a few weeks ago for less than £50 delivered from eBay.
There are enough of them about that you can pretty much always get hold of one. You can generally restore a rusty one, and most of them have got a lot of life left in them.
Sure, there are other brands of old ‘Made in England’ or ‘Made in the USA’ vices, but at that price for that level of convenience – if you’re on a budget – why look beyond them?29 January 2013 at 11:17 pm #7177
I just looked up my local classified web site and a quality vintage Wilton quick-release vise appeared for $75. Just an example of how you can find a quality vise (with thick old-school castings and threading) for a reasonable sum.
-Scott Los Angeles30 January 2013 at 12:54 am #7182RedtailParticipant
I got lucky and found an old Columbian quick release 10″ vice at a yard sale for $25 about three years ago. Thing weighs a ton and is the same exact model I used in high school wood shop.This company supplied schools across the US and was bought out by Wilton a while back. Saw some on ebay last week for good prices. Great vices.
West Virginia, USA30 January 2013 at 8:00 pm #7208moyarifficParticipant
I’ve myself been considering a twin screw vise (Moxon) from Tools for Working Wood. I may be in a different boat than others, insofar as I didn’t build Paul’s bench. Instead, I built the Underhill portable bench. Portability is a premium for me (I’m a grad student and a renter, so I need to be flexible about where I store woodshop tools and my ability to move them). Plus, I like being able to move the bench outside on a sunny day. This bench, in combination with holdfasts and a Veritas Wonder Dog, works great when I need to hold something to the surface of the bench. But vertical holding, oy, that’s a different story. For a while, I’ve been getting away with holdfasts through the apron or handscrew clamps when I needed secure a board for dovetailling. But durn it, a vise just looks so much easier and more secure for these applications.
The trouble is that to maintain portability, I need a vise that either: 1) doesn’t extend very far into the depth of the bench, which interferes with the legs closing shut; or 2) detaches quickly from the bench. I’ve been scouring the internet, and haven’t found much. I called the folks at TFWW, and Ben – who was very helpful – recommended that I install the bench on bench hardware directly into the face of the bench (or through the apron). Seems like a good solution that lets me maintain portability.
Anybody have experience with this type of vise? It looks a little less convenient than simple one-handed quick release vises, but it’s also ligther and easier for me to deal with (and perhaps more secure?). Any other ideas about how to deal with this?
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