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4 December 2017 at 5:00 pm #393422
It would seem that if you’ve got the rounded boss (as both mine have) then its pre 1963 ish as it’s around then that they changed the 52 1/2 to have the new front jaw and flat boss.
21 November 2017 at 9:56 am #376486I have to laugh as I did exactly the same thing when mine arrive d a few weeks back.
Utter madness. Mine was only the 9500R though so 22″ and 10tpi, same box!
20 November 2017 at 6:06 pm #375836I just found this thread on a UK woodworking forum and thought I’d share. It does a nice job of trying to collate a bunch of information about the Record 52 1/2 including patent dates, manufacturing changes etc.
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/evolution-of-the-record-52-1-2-quick-release-vice-t106895-45.html
19 November 2017 at 6:22 pm #374868Well I’ve managed to secure myself one of the old style (post patent no, pre new front jaw/flat end) for the measly sum of £37.27 including postage! We’ll see how it turns out.
Makes up for buying a mint in original box Stanley #80 yesterday!
16 November 2017 at 1:20 am #368274Take a sharpie, colour the bevel and take a few passes on your more coarse grit and you’ll see just where it’s taking it from and how far until you reach the tip.
If all else fails a honing guide to 25 will do of course.
15 November 2017 at 10:20 pm #368051Ahh very interesing. Maybe the flat end coincided with the change in design of the front jaw from the one shown above to this one. I don’t think I’ve yet seen one with either the new jaw and bulbous end, or old jaw and flat end.
It seems at one point they did include version numbers on the old jaw, as I found this 52 1/2 A which has the old jaw design and bulbous end.
Fascinating.
15 November 2017 at 8:08 pm #367830[quote quote=359551]I get the reason for the wedges, but…. Does repeatedly screwing and unscrewing the bolts not wear out the wood over time?[/quote]
If they are through bolts with a fastner on the other side (which I believe they are) then no. They are really more there to hold it in place than actually strengthen it. The leg in the dado and the wedge is what keeps it strong and stable. If I recall correctly from the first workbench build on Youtube Paul drilled the hole a bit big anyway.
If they are screws or lag bolts then yes, lots of screwing and unscrewing could cause an issue over time, though if you were careful you’d get the threads back in where they were cut and that would help prevent it.
15 November 2017 at 8:03 pm #367820@nicknw it seems others agree, it’s already at £37 with 8 days left! I’ve a few I’m keeping an eye on so the spring information is useful to retain. There’s one someone painted lime green though. Eugh.
It looks like they changed casting for the front jaw at some point and after that they started including D or E or whatever on the jaw as a way to identify them. There must be someone somewhere who either has some old catalogues or knows when it all changed!
15 November 2017 at 6:20 am #366905Despite being happy to pay that bit more and having just bought a 044, 78 and 071 planes, I’m sorely tempted to get to some boot fairs as I think there will be plenty of things on offer. Though maybe we all end up like Paul owning 1231 marking gauges this way!
14 November 2017 at 8:06 pm #366497Ahh, hence my confusion, I saw this one available and the front jaw suggests a vanilla 52 1/2 but it clearly has the QR with 9″ jaws and 13″ depth.
It’s got no dog and no cover over the screw. It’s also got the bulb shaped bar holder (the correct name escapes me) which seems to have been an older design before they just made them flat ended.
I’ve seen other plain 52 1/2s that indeed don;t have the QR, do have the flat ended bar holder and have the revised casting on the jaw.
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