20 July 2013 at 3:58 pm #15100
I’ve been rehabbing a number of Stanley planes and the videos from Paul and a few others have cleared up almost everything except for one setting. When using the Frog Adjusting Screw what is a good initial setting? I’m starting off with about 1/8″ between the front edge of the frog to the rear of the mouth but honestly I have no idea if this is anywhere close to optimal. There’s such a huge range of adjustment possible I assume there’s some variable I’m not aware of that calls for a larger or smaller gap.
Any tips? Anyone know what that “unknown variable” is that I’m missing that explains WHY this adjustment exists and how to use it?
Hubert, NC20 July 2013 at 4:15 pm #15103
Everyone will tell you something different John.
Some good info………20 July 2013 at 10:30 pm #15114STEVE MASSIEParticipant
Ken has showed some great tutorial’s here, study these and you will be good to go. I have been using Hand Tools now for about 4 years and learned how to fettle my tools, for me this is half the fun of this great hobby.
Steve Massie, I live in the great State of Florida, US21 July 2013 at 12:51 am #15118david o’sullivanParticipant
cheers ken most helpful
"we can learn what to do, by doing" Aristotle21 July 2013 at 9:54 am #15122David GillParticipant
Great set of notes, In the Trouble shoot your plane notes it says about removing the corners of the blade to remove possible tracks, do you know what you should do with the corners of the chip breaker to stop it protruding beyond the blade at the corners?
Wigan, Lancs. England :21 July 2013 at 10:02 am #15123
Removing the corners is only a very light rounding with a file. I would not use a grinder as suggested. The chip breaker will be fine as it is.
Hope this helps buddy. 😉21 July 2013 at 12:40 pm #15127Mark ArmstrongParticipant
On a smoother only corners to be rounded like Ken says use a fine file use your diamond plates to polish corners up a bit. You barley nick the corners the cap iron should not protrude you still will get cap Iorn 1/32″ from cutting edge.
I find if cap Iron too close to cutting edge plane dose not perform as well.
Some great finds Ken I liked the masking tape method so simple. 😉
Dagenham, Essex, England21 July 2013 at 1:42 pm #15128
Mark I wonder if putting the tape in the front of the mouth would work the same.21 July 2013 at 1:48 pm #15129Mark ArmstrongParticipant
Perhaps but I would think it would be difficult to make tape to stay in place. Maybe just cut 2″ or 2 3/8″ x 2″ long strip of paper and fold round front of mouth?
Dagenham, Essex, England22 July 2013 at 9:15 am #15146David GillParticipant
i think i may have put too big a rads on corner but I did have the chip breaker closer than 1/32″ I will have a look later to see how far back I need the chip breaker so it does not overlap the blade at the corners , Thanks for your comments
Wigan, Lancs. England :22 July 2013 at 7:25 pm #15157
Many thanks to all, especially Ken. Those links made me rethink how I was setting up the planes, mostly because now I have a little understanding of WHY I was moving the frog back and forth.
I got the first of the top laminations for my Seller’s style workbench planed and glued up yesterday. Not too pretty but since I’m making a 6′ bench from 8′ studs it’s workable. Now that I know what I’m doing I’ll pick better studs for the next section Certainly my planes will work better.
Hubert, NC22 July 2013 at 8:36 pm #15158jgust747Participant
This is when it’s nice to have several planes. A #4 can do everything but you need to adjust it for each task. Having several planes with different settings is a nice luxury that helps to speed up projects.
Dallas, Texas22 July 2013 at 9:03 pm #15160
Agreed Johan but I think I went a little overboard there. While waiting for the weather to clear up here (Near Seattle WA. UGLY winters) I kind of got hooked on looking for old tools on craigslist and ebay. I now have 8 number 5s, about 4 4s, 1 4 1/2, and a couple of threes. And a 6 and a 7 I really can’t explain. But I had great fun fettling them when it was too wet and cold out there to get any work done.
I settled on two of the 4s and the 4 1/2 for the bench job mostly for consistency’s sake. I’ve finally gotten to the point where I can put a decent edge on them (mostly) freehand with Paul’s method and I’m kicking out shavings at a rate guaranteed to offend the neighbors if I don’t stop them from blowing down the alley.
Hubert, NC22 July 2013 at 9:04 pm #15161
I think you need more than a N04 I would be lost without my longer planes, and they must have had a good reason to make them me thinks. 😉
Nice job John 🙂22 July 2013 at 9:17 pm #15163
No, Ken, honestly it was a pretty ugly job. Hopefully the worst I’ll ever do. But I gotta start somewhere. The plan is to learn as I go. Again, my thanks for making it so I didn’t have to make ALL the mistakes.
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