Frog adjustments on Stanley Bailey 4 and larger planes
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20 July 2013 at 3:58 pm #15100
I’ve been rehabbing a number of Stanley planes and the videos from Paul and a few others have cleared up almost everything except for one setting. When using the Frog Adjusting Screw what is a good initial setting? I’m starting off with about 1/8″ between the front edge of the frog to the rear of the mouth but honestly I have no idea if this is anywhere close to optimal. There’s such a huge range of adjustment possible I assume there’s some variable I’m not aware of that calls for a larger or smaller gap.
Any tips? Anyone know what that “unknown variable” is that I’m missing that explains WHY this adjustment exists and how to use it?
Thanks,
John
Everyone will tell you something different John.
Some good info………http://logancabinetshoppe.com/blog/2009/12/quick-tip-3/
http://lumberjocks.com/davidmicraig/blog/18799
http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tools/archive/2009/08/17/troubleshoot-your-plane.aspx
20 July 2013 at 10:30 pm #15114Ken has showed some great tutorial’s here, study these and you will be good to go. I have been using Hand Tools now for about 4 years and learned how to fettle my tools, for me this is half the fun of this great hobby.
Steve
21 July 2013 at 9:54 am #15122Hi Ken
Great set of notes, In the Trouble shoot your plane notes it says about removing the corners of the blade to remove possible tracks, do you know what you should do with the corners of the chip breaker to stop it protruding beyond the blade at the corners?21 July 2013 at 12:40 pm #15127On a smoother only corners to be rounded like Ken says use a fine file use your diamond plates to polish corners up a bit. You barley nick the corners the cap iron should not protrude you still will get cap Iorn 1/32″ from cutting edge.
I find if cap Iron too close to cutting edge plane dose not perform as well.
@ken
Some great finds Ken I liked the masking tape method so simple. 😉Mark I wonder if putting the tape in the front of the mouth would work the same.
22 July 2013 at 9:15 am #15146Mark Ken
i think i may have put too big a rads on corner but I did have the chip breaker closer than 1/32″ I will have a look later to see how far back I need the chip breaker so it does not overlap the blade at the corners , Thanks for your comments22 July 2013 at 7:25 pm #15157Many thanks to all, especially Ken. Those links made me rethink how I was setting up the planes, mostly because now I have a little understanding of WHY I was moving the frog back and forth.
I got the first of the top laminations for my Seller’s style workbench planed and glued up yesterday. Not too pretty but since I’m making a 6′ bench from 8′ studs it’s workable. Now that I know what I’m doing I’ll pick better studs for the next section Certainly my planes will work better.
John
22 July 2013 at 9:03 pm #15160Agreed Johan but I think I went a little overboard there. While waiting for the weather to clear up here (Near Seattle WA. UGLY winters) I kind of got hooked on looking for old tools on craigslist and ebay. I now have 8 number 5s, about 4 4s, 1 4 1/2, and a couple of threes. And a 6 and a 7 I really can’t explain. But I had great fun fettling them when it was too wet and cold out there to get any work done.
I settled on two of the 4s and the 4 1/2 for the bench job mostly for consistency’s sake. I’ve finally gotten to the point where I can put a decent edge on them (mostly) freehand with Paul’s method and I’m kicking out shavings at a rate guaranteed to offend the neighbors if I don’t stop them from blowing down the alley.
22 July 2013 at 9:17 pm #15163No, Ken, honestly it was a pretty ugly job. Hopefully the worst I’ll ever do. But I gotta start somewhere. The plan is to learn as I go. Again, my thanks for making it so I didn’t have to make ALL the mistakes.
John
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