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  • #5697
    matthew james
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    i have saw pauls video on handplanes. i live in northern ireland and the planes on ebay are about 20 to 30 pounds but most have 15 to 20 pound delivery charge. i am going to buy a few tools off toolstop and there is a stanley no 4 for 45 pounds i am just wondering are the old ones better since it will cost around the same amount. there is also a faithful set for 60 pound with a no 4 plane a block plane a tri square a marking guage and a bevel just wondering if this would be any good cause i know paul said you cant beat a stanley no 4

    thanks

     

    #5701
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I would go for an old No 4,  the reviews I have read one these new ones are not very good at all. As for the faithful set for 60 pound, I ask my self what kind of quality and accuracy are you going to get for that kind of money.

    I too have to save for buying tools, but I would rather wait and buy a good tool, that is fit for the job. Just my opinion buddy, everyone is different and have there own way of doing things.

    Very Best

    Ken

    #5703
    Florian
    Participant

    I would also consider to buy used wooden planes. I payed 75 Euros for a smoothing plane, a jack plane, a rabbet and a jointer and they were all in very good condition. It takes some time to get used to setting the depth of the iron with a hammer instead of turning a screw, but once you know how to do it they plane wonderfully. I have to admit, that I have no experience with metal planes except my spokeshave, the router and a stanley no. 80, but I follow Paul’s lessons with my woodies and they are doing a great job.

     

    Florian

    I enjoy working wood in Germany.

    #5704
    Paul Sellers
    Keymaster

    Anyone in Northern Ireland got a spare #4 for a woodworking friend? Or anywhere else for that matter. Can we help other people who might be the same as our friend?

    #5706
    JONATHAN WARREN
    Participant

    Hello Matthew

    I have a spare No 4, but it is a Faithfull one, from the same set that you have seen advertised.  I bought it some years ago, and then fell in love with and started using the heavyweight planes.  I have since been using the old Stanleys.  Anyway, I was curious about the Faithfull because it felt heavier, and so I weighed it.  It is 80g heavier than the Stanley, but if you want it, you are most welcome to it.  I live in Northwest England, so the postage might be about the same.  I must also say that I loved the small block plane that came in the set; I found it to be an absolutely cracking little plane!  Unfortunately, I dropped it and bent the adjusting screw (which I straightened again) but it was never the same.  I now use it as a spare block plane in my boat toolbox, and it works well.

    So, if you want to take on the Faithfull No4, you can have it for the price of the postage.  It is a nice plane, and it needs a good home.

    Let me know what you want to do.

    From Warrington, UK. Making stuff in my front room.

    #5707
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Great offer Jonathan, well done buddy 😉

    #5708
    matthew james
    Participant

    thank you Jonathan for your lovely offer but i will have to decline. i am only starting woodworking and have none of the tools that are in this set so i am going to buy this set since you gave such a good review.

    thanks again

    Matthew James

    #5709
    JONATHAN WARREN
    Participant

    Matthew

    You are very welcome.  It is a good start-up set because it has a bevel gauge, a mortice gauge, and a square as well as the two planes (if it’s the one I am thinking of), and should take care of your immediate needs.  Having said that, you really should consider investing in the three diamond stones that Paul recommends because it will simplify the task of keeping your planes in tip-top condition and make them much easier to use.

    Incidentally, I also have a set of Faithfull chisels and a square awl (they don’t make them any more, I was lucky enough to buy old stock when the factory closed down), but I am told that Narex chisels are very, very good value for money.

    Good luck, and I hope it goes well for you.

    Jonathan

    From Warrington, UK. Making stuff in my front room.

    #5710
    matthew james
    Participant

    i am going to get those faithful chisels as well. do you know any suppliers of the eze lap stones paul uses .i can only find them in a online store for 20 euro each which seems cheep compared to dmt. there in this store http://www.fine-tools.com/ . i found dmt stones in axminster but der 40 and 75 for a double sided one. also do you know where paul gets the chrome oxide for the strop the only stuff i can find is honing compound in axminster

    #5716
    JONATHAN WARREN
    Participant

    This is the size that he uses.  These are the ones I bought (I made a mistake and bought the medium (400), fine (600) and superfine (1200) rather than the 250, 600 and 1200 grit.  They are 8″x3″.

    Diamond Stone 203 x 76 mm, 400 grit, MediumEZE-LAP number: 81MOrder nr. 317932  Price ✱€ 52.00 Diamond Stone 203 x 76 mm, 600 grit, FineEZE-LAP number: 81FOrder nr. 317933  Price ✱€ 42.00 Diamond Stone 203 x 76 mm, 1200 grit, Super FineEZE-LAP number: 81SFOrder nr. 317934  Price ✱€ 42.00

    I’d get the ones he recommends.  You could try any honing paste, really.

    Jonathan

    From Warrington, UK. Making stuff in my front room.

    #5728
    JONATHAN WARREN
    Participant

    I use the honing compound that came with my tormek sharpener, as well as a hard honing block of stuff which I bought with another sharpening system.  In his video, Paul says any will really do.  Look up Jeweller’s Rouge.  I took the text from that link you gave earlier, bu the way.  Here is a link to grinding paste on ebay.

    http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/300668231974?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla&crdt=0

    Don’t buy a special strop off the internet, buy a leather belt from a charity shop with sufficient width, and use the skin side.

    Jonathan

    Jonathan

    From Warrington, UK. Making stuff in my front room.

    #5751
    juryaan
    Participant

    Have some of you guys had any experience with Mujingfang planes?

    I like the look of wooden planes and these planes are not too expensive either.

    Lopik - Netherlands

    #5752
    JONATHAN WARREN
    Participant

    Some years ago I bought a few of the smaller planes.  After watching Paul use the moulding plane on the clock, I decided to resurrect my hollow plane.  They work well, but I am told that most oriental planes are designed to pull rather than push, so I have not used them as much as I could have.  I like the versatility of a metal plane, but the feel of a wooden plane.  I also have a Barron plane.  At the end of the day, I revert to what works for me, and I am sad to say that after doing the tools merry-go-round, Paul is right: Stanley No 4 is the best all-rounder!  :S

    Jonathan

    From Warrington, UK. Making stuff in my front room.

    #5754
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yeah I have a few of there plans, the Irons in them are wicked sharp. These are hand made from one block of wood. Nice 🙂

    #5778
    juryaan
    Participant

    thank you guys.

    Lopik - Netherlands

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