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Spear and Jackson 9500R: Resharpening to Rip Tooth

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Welcome! / Forums / General Woodworking Discussions / Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration / Spear and Jackson 9500R: Resharpening to Rip Tooth

  • This topic has 5 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 2 months ago by Jim Joy.
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  • Jim Joy
    7 January 2022 at 2:27 pm #743830

    Hey Everyone,

    I saw Paul’s video where he resharpens a Spear and Jackson handsaw to a rip tooth. I am debating buying a 10ppi Spear and Jackson panel saw to try this out, but I was wondering if anyone who has tried this can comment on one specific point:

    When doing this, should you leave the rake angle unchanged, or is it helpful/possible to lessen the rake?

    Thanks in advance. As I said, I’m thinking about giving this a shot, but am also debating vintage options as a possibility and wanted to get some opinions from people who have tried this.

    Best,
    Jim

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    Jim Joy
    7 January 2022 at 2:50 pm #743837

    I should admit that I should have listened when he says “The angle is perfect, I don’t need to make any changes to it”. I suppose that gives me my answer!

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    Matt Mahan
    7 January 2022 at 2:52 pm #743840

    Hey Jim. I’m no expert, but I’ve been sharpening saws a long time and have tweaked/altered/mutilated/perfected my share. I’d consider the rake to be up for optimization as well, because you’re taking the file strokes anyway. In general, all of my favorite rip saws have had aggressive rake – more aggressive than a typical crosscut saw certainly. So just something to consider. I’m not sure what rake your SJ saw will come with though, so benefit may be minimal. Either way, will be a fun conversion – keep us posted.

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    Matt Mahan
    7 January 2022 at 2:58 pm #743846
    Jim Joy wrote:

    I should admit that I should have listened when he says “The angle is perfect, I don’t need to make any changes to it”. I suppose that gives me my answer!

    “Perfect, perfect, perfect”

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    Joost Borst
    7 January 2022 at 6:41 pm #743910

    If you havent bought the saw yet and plan on cutting long boards I suggest getting the version with bigger teeth, meaing a lower tpi.

    I got the 10 tpi converted to rip but it doesnt cut as fast as I would like to. On the other hand the 10 tpi in rip still cuts crosscuts easily.

    Also if you dont have a rasp and a file yet get them aswell cause you want to modify the handle. Its really uncomfortable but a hour or two with the rasp, file and sandpaper really makes a huge difference.

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    Jim Joy
    8 January 2022 at 12:31 pm #743995

    Thanks for the suggestions!

    I found a listing for a 12 ppi Rip Filed D-8 that seems to be in pretty good shape. With shipping, it was about the same cost as the S&J saw. I’m hopeful that it will become a good user for finish cuts with a light filing! Plus, I anticipate that the handle will come with a better default shape that I can refine over time.

    Thank you also for the suggestion on getting the 7 PPI saw. I actually already have a 5 PPI Keen Kutter Rip Saw. It needs a bit of work, and the handle is not the most comfortable, but it generally gets the job done.

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