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I’ve had good luck on a couple replacement part orders with this ebay store:
Hi everyone,
I have a re-assembly question. I’ve cleaned up the No. 5 mentioned above and I’m starting to put it back together. I noticed when I was cleaning it that it has a MUCH longer plane iron than the No. 4 did. Now that I am putting it back together, I’m finding that I have to screw the adjuster in almost the entire way to get the plane iron to recess back into the mouth of the plane. Have I assembled something incorrectly / backwards? I don’t think grinding would even help, because I think it’s the length of the cap iron that would be impacted by the adjustment knob.
Thanks!
Thanks Bob! I can definitely see the benefit. Here are a couple more photos of this first iron after another evening of grinding and sharpening away:
Meanwhile, the No. 5 has hit the vinegar bath for it’s own cleaning.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 8 months ago by Chris.
Thanks for the tips! I’m going to check out a few other places to get tools, as well as see if there is any local swap meets or areas where people may try and unload some older stuff that I can actually put my hands on before buying.
In other news, I am working on sharpening now. I think [hope?] this first pass will take much more time than in the future, as I get the primary bevel correct and work out some of the bigger dings and dents. This picture is after a good few hours of sharpening, from 250 all the way up to 4000 grit, just to see what I was working with.
If anyone has any tips, please let me know, otherwise I think it just needs a few more hours of work. I can definitely understand now why grinding wheels and sharpening gear like a Tormek are useful!
Update:
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[IMG]http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee431/ZhentNikon/Woodworking/20160812_122909_zpse4f4knjb.jpg[/IMG]It’s amazing how clean everything got with a little vinegar, WD-40, and some scrubbing! I’ve already received a No. 5 Bailey plane as well, but I’m holding off on disassembling it until these go back together.
There are some interesting differences between these two No. 4’s. The iron on one is much longer than the other, and the Y piece in the frog is a solid piece on one body and split into two separate pieces on the other [but it looks intentional, not broken]
The body stamped ‘Made in England’ is worn down to the iron in a lot of places, so I think it needs a hit of spray enamel to be safe. I’m taping off the contact points now, so they don’t get sprayed over.
Also, time to put the other one back together.
Hi Steve – good luck!
Here’s a tip I just found out – if you use something like Krud Kleaner or whatever to remove the rust from your planes, don’t rinse them with water! I did that by mistake and now have a plane almost entirely covered with rust again – took 5 minutes, tops.
I’m going to have to try vinegar or something, see if it will eat that surface rust off, and then dry them quickly before re-painting.
Naturally a few questions have come up that I don’t know the answer to. I’m looking around the great wide web, as I’m sure they’ve been asked before, but:
Can I spray black enamel over the body and frog without removing all of the old covering, as long as I mask the contact points? Is there any trick to getting sandpaper in to the grooves and recesses of the frog, or should I look at something like vinegar or electrolysis for pulling all that rust off?
The great adventure begins:
Nothing looks insurmountable at first glance. Lots of cleaning to do, sanding rust off. One handle is cracked through, but it looks clean enough to be able to epoxy it back together, at least temporarily until I get to a point of being able to make a new one.
Starting to get them cleaned up this week, and I’ve ordered my sharpening supplies so hopefully they will arrive sooner rather than later.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 9 months ago by Chris.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 9 months ago by Chris.
Exactly the same! We’ve finally bought and settled into a house, and now that I have the empty space in the basement to work I’d like to get started. I pretty swiftly got tired of watching videos that began with ‘After I ran these boards through my planer and jointer…’
Thanks to both, good suggestions. I managed to win a bid and it should arrive early next week, giving me some time this weekend to pick up the last of the 2×4’s I need to begin my bench tops, as well as all the supplies to restore these planes – I’m going to try and follow along with Paul’s workbench videos. Pictures to come as soon as I have them in hand and can start to look at them in greater detail!
That’s a great point, and now that I’m looking at ‘Buy It Now’ options I think I will have more success than trying the auctions. In the meantime I am also watching some videos and figuring out all the other material I will need to restore a plane – so far, I’ve got:
flat surface – tile or plate glass
plenty of various grit sandpaper
wd-40
steel woolWatching the video again and working through it now.
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That’s a great idea, thanks. I was outbid in the last ~6 minutes or so on a couple auctions that ended over last night or this morning, so I may try that instead – I can definitely see looking for auctions for future planes, but without any I’m a bit stuck even beginning the workbench project!
Thanks Eric and Steve for the suggestions – I’m up in the Northeast, Boston area, so I will definitely do some investigating local swaps / markets, see if I can find anything. In the meantime, I’ve put in some bids on auctions of some hand planes on eBay that I think are in fairly decent shape, and I’ve watched Peter Seller’s video on how to restore a plane a few times now.
Hopefully I will win one or two of these bids, and I’ll be back with some photos!
Thanks Bob! I’ve been poking around eBay, but I am not much of an auctioneer so I’m getting my bearings on that. There seem to be a few different Types of No. 4 planes, so I’ll have to do some digging into which one I should be looking for precisely.
I’m guessing that anything in the same $40-60 USD price range that can be purchased new isn’t worth spending the money?
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