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  • This topic has 9 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 9 months ago by Larry Geib.
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  • Antonio Santos
    26 April 2022 at 7:31 pm #757622

    Hi,

    What do you use as grease, to keep the main components lubrified?
    Just 3 in 1 oil?

    Thanks.

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    Darren
    26 April 2022 at 7:57 pm #757631

    I use a dry lubricant, like PTFE spray or similar.

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    Matt Mahan
    26 April 2022 at 8:01 pm #757633

    What model? My 1940’s record 52-1/2 is my absolute favorite tool in the shop.

    Conventional wisdom from the old-timers here in the Ohio valley is: no lube – just keep it clean. Grease+sawdust is a special kind of hell. When I disassembled and rebuilt mine after getting it over here from England I did one thorough oiling with 3-1. Haven’t touched it with oil since. That was 7 years ago and it runs like a dream.

    Individual preferences apply of course.

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    Matt Mahan
    26 April 2022 at 8:02 pm #757635

    Or this! Darren speaks words of wisdom

    Darren wrote:

    I use a dry lubricant, like PTFE spray or similar.

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    Antonio Santos
    26 April 2022 at 11:27 pm #757656

    It’s also a 52 1/2 🙂
    I bought it second hand several years ago, but only know I’ll be using it.
    I dismantled it to took off the rust.
    Btw, I think I have to add an extra washer at the end of the thread screw to keep everything tight.
    When I rotate the handle clockwise, it makes a strange sound, like if something is vibrating. I think it’s the thread screw that has some play at the end.
    If I rotate if counter clockwise. doesn’t make any sound because the in this movement the thread screw doesn’t have any play.
    Is yours tight at the end?

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    Darren
    27 April 2022 at 10:14 am #757700

    Hi,

    I’ve stripped and re-built a couple of these (my wife says I have a problem, as I keep buying them when I see them going for a good price… 😂), and that sounds to me like it might be a tension problem on the quick release?

    Are you sure you have the spring tight enough? When I rebuilt my last one I had a similar sound and the quick release handle was very soft. I wound the spring up a bit more and it all went away.

    Also, while you can pack the end cap with a washer I have not found it to make any material difference to the operation of the vice, just cosmetic.

    D.

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    Antonio Santos
    28 April 2022 at 3:27 pm #757881

    Hi Darren,

    Thanks for the input.
    I wounded the spring up, but it made the same sound, and it’s also too tight.
    So, the problem was not from the spring.
    I just oiled everything and added another washer, and it’s now working flawlessly.
    The extra washer at the end helped a little bit, also for the thread screw to actively engage clockwise and counter clockwise, with any play.

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    Darren
    28 April 2022 at 10:30 pm #757888

    That’s great, glad you got it fixed! 👍

    Do you think without the washer the screw thread was jumping out of the corresponding thread on the quick-release plate? Could that have been the noise?

    I’m intrigued. Thanks for posting what you did, I’ll bookmark this and bear it mind if I see similar problems with any other restorations I do.

    Darren.

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    Antonio Santos
    29 April 2022 at 12:40 am #757889

    Not really.
    I think the noise was mainly lack of oil in every moving part, because the screw thread wasn´t jumping.
    And I think the washer helped a bit to keep it more firmly.
    I now have 3 washers and I had to sand them a little so that the screw thread moves with just my index finger.

    BTW, a little off topic, but I’m looking for variable TPI bandsaw blades in Europe… do you know any?
    I can only find them in UK, and the shipping costs and customs fees are extremely high 🙁

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    Larry Geib
    29 April 2022 at 8:45 pm #757915
    Antonio Santos wrote:

    Not really.
    I think the noise was mainly lack of oil in every moving part, because the screw thread wasn´t jumping.
    And I think the washer helped a bit to keep it more firmly.
    I now have 3 washers and I had to sand them a little so that the screw thread moves with just my index finger.

    BTW, a little off topic, but I’m looking for variable TPI bandsaw blades in Europe… do you know any?
    I can only find them in UK, and the shipping costs and customs fees are extremely high 🙁

    Try googling “Laguna resaw king variable tpi “

    They are an Italian company and sell variable tooth blades in several lengths. any dealer who sell that brand saw should be able to help you
    They are their top end carbide tipped blades

    Highland woodworking ships anywhere, but sales are credit card only with $100 minimum for foreign shipments. My experience shipping to Europe is that’s it’s a little cheaper than getting stuff in the US shipped from EU countries. They will verify charges before shipping.
    https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/highlandwood-working-terms-and-conditions-of-sale.aspx

    Also, Germany is the largest producer and exporter of band saw blades in the World. Your task would be to wade through the large industrial and metal cutting blades, but I see at least a couple who make resaw variable tooth blades in the 3-4 tpi range.

    I’d look for Robert Bosch first. Variable tpi blades are even in the big box stores in the USA.

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