Side table – Form/function/design and customer satisfaction
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SalkoThe picture angle doesn’t show quit well that but, I put a chamfer in the legs and a slight tapper. And did the same on the front and back rail.
Next time I’ll try a heavier taper on the legs.
I’ll practice Paul’s method in an up coming stool 🙂
I got tear out even with a fresh sharp scraper.
Thank guys!
17 February 2016 at 11:36 am #134841When I was working with blackwood I faced the same issue of tearout even using a scraper which shouldn’t happen at all. After giving it much thought as I couldn’t scrap an order and work with a friendlier timber I raised the bevel of my planer blade to 50° which immediately solved the problem. The question remains why my scraper tore it and the 50° didn’t will forever haunt me. Blackwood is much like sapele as it’s notorious for reversing grain but you were using Pine and pine hand tools friendly. I don’t understand why you faced tearout at all. Are you certain you didn’t plane against the grain, sometimes grain is difficult to read one great method of testing grain direction is to run your fingers along the board and you’ll be able to feel which way the grain is going.
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SalkoThank for the input.
It was only in some boards, not all of them
As this is recycled, I’m not sure what pine species it is.
I even try to raise the angle of the iron plane a bit but no success.But I can tell the down rails for the drawer are sapelly and I could manage with it.
Plus here in the Iberian Peninsula (Portugal and Spain) we have different pine sub-species Pinus Pinaster Aiton sub Atlantica and sub Escarena (my sept-daugther has a degree in biologies :)) One of them are used for several things but impractical for furniture but great for post and foundations under water….
And I don’t know how to difference them both, LOL
I think that’s a great-looking table, especially considering the “naughty knotty” wood you have used. And the joinery looks flawless. If there are tearout problems, I can’t see them.
Your original question was about design presentation and changes to that design for a client, even if a family member, and that is something I have experience with. The experience taught me that if one has worked wood, thought about the design elements, the realities of construction, and attempted then to put ideas on paper – the end result (while very useful to oneself) is not at all what a potential client might want, or be capable of understanding. I suspect most of us here approach a design and construction process similarly. Of course with Paul or Greg’s level of drawing skill it would be different.
My wage-paying job is programming, and an axiom of that (first said by I cannot remember whom) is that, despite an extensive design process, customers do not know what they want until they see what you have built, and then they know that that is not it. We just accept this as part of life and change things. Of course in software that generally means fewer changes than in woodwork (but less firewood :))
I don’t have a complete answer, sorry, but what helped me was to concentrate more on physical objects (museums or whatever) than (certainly my) drawings. Even wood colour can be a point of misunderstanding – my wife sees some woods whose natural colour I like as ‘too orange’. So I sometimes reluctantly paint the objects I make.
“…(but less firewood :))…” LOL
I have 2 card boxes full of those “firewood” LOLWhat you’ve just written reminded me one time (when I was working in visual effects).
After one all week -with overtime- and one entire team working on something when we show it to the director he loved it. And then he said. Great work but I’ll like that in different colors so i can chose… Back then, the advent of digital that means we need to to all over again for each color change… That was painful!Thanks for the input!
Today I dry fit the drawer.
And discovered that my
small level wasn’t true!
and
the 6mm French (goldengerg) chisel does not match the 6mm cuter from the Chinese (mujingfang) groove plane… Can you guess witch was wrong???The french chisel 5,6mm
The chinese cutter 6,04mmAttachments:
You must be logged in to view attached files.Wax and polish completed! 🙂
It took more time to finish because of humidity. The shellac was hard to proper dry.If today I start this all over I would/might do a more aggressive on the tapered legs to match the thin rails.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.27 February 2016 at 2:32 pm #135071This table turned out awesome Antonio! I really like the design on the drawer front. I may have to steal that for myself. LOL.
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