Lateral adjustment lever hitting tote
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23 August 2018 at 2:07 pm #550492
Already order an original one from NHplaneparts off eBay. He’s supposedly the go to for stuff like that
23 August 2018 at 5:44 pm #550501You’re right Dave. That bed might actually be a 6A because the “No” and size # casting aren’t spaced apart like on a type 7 but the bed has the “S” foundry designation. That combination would only have been from the 1892 type 6A. You run into this all the time with those old Stanley’s. The factory would use up all the bed castings for a particular type but still have frogs left over or vice-versa and if they still fit, they just made hybrids. The ones from around the war years are notorious for that. You wouldn’t think they would have skipped over an entire type and used a type 6A bed with a type 8 frog, but who knows. Some previous owner might have mixed up the parts from a couple of damaged planes to make one good one too.
23 August 2018 at 6:41 pm #550503I think Harry nailed it . That was why I was Asking for more pictures. I was also looking for a thread from a while back that had the same issue.
You could try to get the right frog, ( New England) but there are other fixes if the plane cuts well.
Either file down the top of the tote a little or put a shim on the bed to raise the frog.
Funny things happened around the turn of the 19th- 20th century.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Larry Geib.
I’m pretty sure that the frogs on types 6, 7 and 8 are identical aside from markings.
I just disassembled an old No.6. The B casting mark appears on both the frog and the sole. Single patent date on the lateral lever. Closely spaced “No” and “6”, as on Mike’s No.7. Evidently the spacing was only changed on the planes with the model number at the very nose of the plane.
One thing I noticed was that the tote looked different from later versions. Overall height is the same but the forward edge of the older tote is quite a bit lower than that of the newer ones. wondering whether Mike’s problem might be a later type tote, I swapped it for another from circa 1925–plenty of clearance between tote and lateral lever.
At this point I tend to suspect that Mike’s No.7 has been fitted with a non-Stanley tote.
Dave
- This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Dave Ring.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Dave Ring.
23 August 2018 at 11:02 pm #550514That certainly could be a replaced tote. Those are hard if not impossible to accurately date. Maybe he can modify that one if tinkering with the frog won’t fix it.
23 August 2018 at 11:26 pm #550515All this is remarkably cool. As far as the lateral lever, it still operates as it should. All that is happening is it’s wearing the top of the tote. Really no big deal to me as “something” is not original and causing the clearance issue. I sharpened the iron per the Paul sellers way and it’s freaking scary sharp and cuts a beauty of shaving. Thanks guys!
The front Tote Screw on my Stanley #7 Plane is the same BSW (British Standard Whitworth) thread as for the Record 071 Router Fence Screw. I don’t know the size, but here’s a good source for most.
https://www.gwr-fasteners.co.ukBTW, They stock 3/16″ BSW Cheesehead screws for the Stanley 71 Fence @ £0.70 each.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by Alan.
25 August 2018 at 8:38 am #550557The small tote screw is usually called #12-20 whitworth. But it was whitworth before it became BSW. 12-20 isn’t party of the BSW series. I think you occasionally see it as 7/32” – 20 tpi.
I took mine out of my #7 and It threads correctly into a 1/4”-20 nut, but it is too loose a fit
I see several sites that sell them. The most reasonable seems to be Highland Woodworking in the USA.
https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/benchplanefrogadjustmentscrew.aspx
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