12 October 2019 at 1:37 pm #617261rnieuwenhuijsParticipant
It’s been a very long time since I posted something here, but I hope someone might be able to help me. I have just finished building this project and it has been an amazing learning experience and fun to build. In Paul’s version he added a gas stay to stop the lid tipping backwards. He screwed it into the frame of the lid. I altered the dimensions for my chest (I made a slightly smaller version). Unfortunately the frame of my lid just barely overhangs the inside of the box (only about 5mm). This means that I have to screw the stay into the panel. But: the panel is bevelled and therefore very thin where I need to screw the stay (too thing for a screw).
My question is if anyone has tips/suggestions for solving this. One thought I had is that I could glue a block of wood to the inside of the panel of the lid, thereby making it thicker, and screwing a stay into that. It would be a bit unsightly though. I don’t need a gas stay per se, and could also attach a chain, but then I’m face with the same problem of how to attach it to the lid.
The chest will be placed along a wall, so the lid wouldn’t be able to open more than 100 degrees as it is. but I still like the idea of having some kind of safeguard against it opening too far and ripping out the hinges.
I’ve attached a couple of pictures.
Any advice is much appreciated!
Robert12 October 2019 at 6:50 pm #617334Larry GeibParticipant
Gas stay brackets come in all sorts of offset configurations.
It could be that one like this might work to screw to the lid frame.
Stabila is another brand.
Google 10mm gas stay bracket and dozens of types will show.
12 October 2019 at 7:03 pm #617344Larry GeibParticipant
- This reply was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Larry Geib.
An alternative is to use adjustable friction hinges. With these, the lid will stay in any position you put it.13 October 2019 at 1:12 am #617429EdParticipant
The other reason for a slow-close stay when there is a heavy lid is to protect children’s fingers, heads, and whatever else they manage to stick in there. There are also spring-based stays. You need to calculate the torque requirement from the weight and size of the lid.13 October 2019 at 7:36 am #617487rnieuwenhuijsParticipant
Larry: I will look at some of the offset options and see if I can find something, or glueing a bevelled block. Ed: there are no kids in this house (usually) but that’s a valid point.
Thanks for all your help!14 October 2020 at 8:30 pm #682249ANDREW BITELYParticipant
I ended up in a very similar situation. I was running low on material and had to make my lid frame narrower than Paul’s design. I didn’t even think about how that would affect my stay. After thinking about it a lot, I realized I did not have a lot of options and ended up screwing it to the panel. I was nervous about breaking through to the other side, so once I got my screws started I took them back out and filed the point off. I am reasonably happy with the result, but next time I would try to make sure this did not happen.
Hope this was helpful,
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