Replacement screw for Stanley 45 fence

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  • #121863
    Derek Long
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    Does anyone have a 45 type 12 or up with the micro-adjust fence? There’s a locking screw on the left side of the fence body at the left small rod for the fence (not the main fence rods, the little micro-adjust rods, and not the adjusting screw in the middle of the fence). Can anyone let me know the thread diameter and pitch of that screw to try to get a replacement at HD or something rather than paying $15 or more off Ebay for a hit or miss?

    Much appreciated!

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

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  • #121866
    Dave Riendeau
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    @dave

    I took some photos, I think this is the one you are talking about.

    -Canada

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    #121872
    Derek Long
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    @delong1974

    Thanks, Dave!

    It looks like its roughly a #10 and 32 tpi, if its in imperial and not metric. Hopefully that’s the case, because a quick search turns up a metric ton of knurled 1/2″ thumb screws.

    Thanks again, Dave, this probably saved me a lot of time, trouble and money. That little bolt goes for about $15 on Ebay. Unreal.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #121873
    Dave Riendeau
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    @dave

    I have no idea how bolts are measured but given the age when these were made I doubt it’s metric.

    -Canada

    #121894
    chemical_cake
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    @chemical_cake

    Just realised my 45’s missing the same locking screw, never realised the micro-adjuster even had one until this post! I’ve used it a little so far and not noticed any movement of the fence without the locking screw, or if there has been a little movement it’s not been a problem for the class of work I’ve been doing.

    These combi-planes are such a pain to buy, there’s so much going on it seems you’re almost guaranteed to be missing at least one component. I got mine from a guy who had four or five of them, each missing a random assortment of bits and none with any blades.

    How do you find it in use?

    Matt

    Southampton, UK

    #121896
    Dave Riendeau
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    @dave

    Matthew, the one I have is on loan from a friend. It’s complete with both boxes of cutters. He wants to sell it to me so I’m test driving it. am not sure what else it does besides cutting grooves like my plough plane but it sure makes a conversation piece. All sorts of whiz bangs on it :). I think it will take me years to figure it all out.

    -Canada

    #121897
    Jay
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    @jochs99

    Dave, that one looks like it’s in pretty nice shape. Looks like a keeper.

    #121899
    Derek Long
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    @delong1974

    The 45 is a finicky thing to use, but it gets me out of a lot of scrapes. Getting the fence set can be a pain, and making sure you don’t lean it over. It’s got a learning curve. But it can make grooves, rabbets, matched tongues and grooves, beads, and rounds and hollows if you have the right parts. Unlike Veritas’ very nice plow plane, the 45 has nickers and you can pretty much use it right or left (awkward but doable). Mine doesn’t have the extra shoes for rounds and hollows to fill in for molding planes, unfortunately.

    I just bought a second one that is in better condition that mine that is a later model, but its missing the locking screw. They’re always missing something. The 45 is a Rube Goldberg contraption to be sure.

    One nice thing now that I mention the Veritas plow plane – the plow plane’s blades supposedly fit the 45 (they’re a little short, though). Rob Lee verified on a Sawmill Creek thread from several years ago. I’ve been meaning to buy one of their tonguing blades to replace one in my set that is missing, and a few really badly pitted blades. Sure would be nice to have brand new A2 steel blades for the 45.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #121909
    chemical_cake
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    @chemical_cake

    The beautiful thing about it is that the clamping mechanism means it can take pretty much any blade of about the right thickness and length. I suspect you could even make custom blade profiles with little difficulty, if you were so inclined.

    Coincidentally I used it today to cut a very small and shallow groove, the fence moved and ripped up my nice clean sides. Luckily on the less visible side but painful nonetheless. So if you do find the right thread, please do share.

    Southampton, UK

    #121922
    Derek Long
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    @delong1974

    Matthew, I’ll certainly post here if I manage to figure out the screw geometry. If I can save more people the hassle of wasting time and money on Ebay for a tiny thumb screw it’s worth the effort.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #122023
    Derek Long
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    @delong1974

    It appears the screw is larger than a #8 and smaller than a #10. Probably an old #9, or maybe an old British Association size which is somewhere in the ballpark, based on metric, and very obsolete.

    I’ll order the Ebay replacement screw and take the calipers to it and see what I can figure out.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #122025
    Dave Riendeau
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    @dave

    I’ve got callipers so I can do it for you if you want. Just let me know what you want measured.

    -Canada

    #122029
    Derek Long
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    @delong1974

    Thanks for the offer, Dave, but I’ve got it in hand. I need the screw, so I just ponied up the money for it after my first attempt to match the screws failed. But now I’m on a mission to figure it out and post my findings. Hopefully there is a way everyone can just go out and buy these screws off the shelf for $1.00 or less. I may measure all the other screws on the 45 as well.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

    #122030
    Dave Riendeau
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    @dave

    No problem, let us know what you find. Sorry I couldn’t help out, my edjumaction on how to measure metal screws/bolts is none existent!

    -Canada

    #124499
    chemical_cake
    Member

    @chemical_cake

    Hello Derek. Did you ever find out what this screw was? I miss my micro-adjuster.

    Matt

    Southampton, UK

    #124501
    Derek Long
    Participant

    @delong1974

    Matt,

    Sorry I haven’t followed up. I measured the screw, which has a major diameter (the outside of the thread) of .177 inches (about 11/64) and 4.32 mm, which matches a #9 machine screw with 32 tpi.

    Unfortunately, nobody seems to make a #9 machine screw since the sizes got standardized. Only #8 and #10 sizes, neither of which work. I’ve been searching for a source here and there when I have time, but no luck.

    Derek Long
    Denver, Colorado

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