Tagged: router plane stanley
27 February 2013 at 4:29 am #8517
Ok, guys, I need some advice.
I am about to purchace a Router Plane, and am trying to decide between the Veritas and the Lie Nielsen. From what I have seen, I like the Veritas, but have not had the opportunity for a hands on comparison. I have a few Lie Nielsen tools and I have no complaints with them, they are quality tools. If I do go with the Lie Nielsen, which throat option is better? and what about those alternate blades being used in the adapter, how does that work out? And the fences too, are they functional or clumsy to work with?
Ken Haygarth, I believe you purchased the Lie Nielsen a while back after experiencing a delay in shipping form Veritas. How is that working out for you, are you satisfied?
Any honest comments would be much appreciated.
Memphis, Tennessee27 February 2013 at 5:59 am #8520KenParticipant
I’m pleased I went with the Lie Nielsen now, I much prefer the handles being upright, as to the angled ones of the Veritas. It is a joy to use. I went with the closed throat much better in my opinion.
Here is a video of the adapter in use ………http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buLJWnGMQTE27 February 2013 at 6:27 am #8521constable415Participant
Go with the Lie Nielson. I love mine. I got mine about the same time Ken got his. Very easy to set for correct depth. In my humble opinion it doesn’t really matter about the open or closed throat. Mine is closed. Hope this helps.27 February 2013 at 7:10 am #8523JerryHParticipant
I have the Veritas and think it’s a very good product. I particularly like the fact you can buy the blades in multiple widths as they are great for flattening the bottoms on mortice joints. I have blades in 5 different sizes, the smallest one I have is 3mm and you may even be able to get a smaller one. I would recommend going to a store and make a direct comparison as the handle angles are different as Ken pointed out and they do feel different in your hands.27 February 2013 at 7:25 am #8524
What about the Depth Stop? I like that feature on the Lie Nielsen, I have not seen it on the Veritas, is it there and I am not aware of it?
I do like the blade selection on the Veritas also Jeremy, and they are less expensive than the Lie Nielsen. Do you guys have a need for the multiple blade sizes very often?
Memphis, Tennessee27 February 2013 at 10:06 am #8526KenParticipant
Veritas has a good depth stop27 February 2013 at 10:32 am #8539Michael van ZadelhoffParticipant
I own the Veritas router plane and it’s just perfect. It was shipped with their previous depth stop which I did not like that much. But after a couple of months I noticed they had a depth stop replacement. So I contacted my supplier and I was sent the new one without a charge. It’s the one that Ken shows.27 February 2013 at 11:09 am #8554FlorianParticipant
I also have not used both. Mine is the Veritas and I am happy with it. As Jeremy points out it comes with 1/2″ straight & 1/2″ pointed blade plus you can buy 4 additional straight blades (1/4, 3/16, 1/8, 3/32). All blades fit without adapter ($40 at LN) and the single blade price is less than half of LN ($35). The blades from Veritas also fit in the 71 in case you find one.
The LN comes with a fence which is additional ($20) at Veritas. The fence is useful for the ends of stopped grooves where you cannot come in with the plough plane unless it’s a bullnose.
This mentioned would made me go for the veritas again because I like the idea to have many blade widths that exactly correspond to the blades of my Record 44. This might be more of an individual advantage for me as a metricologist since my chisels are all in between. 4mm<3/16″<6mm….
I think there was only one voice in the last thread about this topic that was absolutely against one of the two. Everybody else was pleased with either one he chose.
P.S. I wonder why nobody speaks about Paul’s red devil he used in one of the recent lid fitting sessions. The other classic tools probably don’t speak with him – The Punk of Penrhyn 😉
I enjoy working wood in Germany.27 February 2013 at 11:59 am #8561Gary HodginParticipant
I got my Veritas about a week ago and have just played around with it. Works great. I got the optional fence and the standard blades but plan to order the 1/8″ and 1/4″. I’m waiting to decide on the small router. I can see where it could be useful in a lot of situations. $55 is a hunk of change though.
A little more and it’d be simpler for me to just send half of my check to LV and the other half to LN and if any is left over at the end of the month they can just send it to me. Wouldn’t be much.27 February 2013 at 5:18 pm #8631David GillParticipant
Are you only considering new I have a Stanley 71that I bought at a tool auction for £35 it works very well
Wigan, Lancs. England :27 February 2013 at 6:34 pm #8635ejpotterParticipant
P.S. I wonder why nobody speaks about Paul’s red devil he used in one of the recent lid fitting sessions. The other classic tools probably don’t speak with him – The Punk of Penrhyn
Florian – Paul discusses briefly that red devil (nice nick) in this post on his other site: http://paulsellers.com/2012/11/buying-good-tools-cheap-the-router-plane/ . It’s a Tyzak or Preston and fairly rare. Nice plane though.
Just moved to NE Ohio27 February 2013 at 7:58 pm #8639robinhcParticipant
The 71’s missing the blades are cheap on eBay right now. Get one and get the blade from Veritas?
Robin ... Richmond, Virginia, USA27 February 2013 at 8:15 pm #8640robinhcParticipant
You can get a “Miller Falls Router No. 77” for $65 on eBay as of 3:15pm EST
Robin ... Richmond, Virginia, USA27 February 2013 at 10:37 pm #8647STEVE MASSIEParticipant
Stephen I don’t think you could go wrong with either one personally. I own a vintage Stanley #71 and bought the LV blades works and performs well. I also bought the Veritas small router which is 1 of 2 new planes I own, the other is the Veritas Medium Shoulder Plane.
Good luck with what ever you decide on.
Steve Massie, I live in the great State of Florida, US1 March 2013 at 2:49 am #8703
Thanks Guys for all the feedback.
Decisions, decisions …
I am planning on making it to the WoodWorking Show in Atlanta at the end of the Month, I believe Veritas will be there and maybe I can put my hands on one of their Router Planes. I also plan to visit Highland Woodworking that weekend and I can put my hands on the Lie Nielsen at that time. In the meantime, I am watching the Stanleys on eBay.
Oh, and Robin, thanks for the post on how to make a Router Plane, making my decision even tougher, lol.
Anyone else planning on making the Atlanta show? Maybe we could meet up for lunch or dinner one day.
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