Workbench Vice

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  • #5652
    Anonymous
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    Hi guys

    I’m still looking for a vice for my workbench, rather than hijack the workbench thread, which is more about the build and our progress,  I have started this one.

    So any recommend vice’s, I have been looking at some of these……..http://www.axminster.co.uk/vices–woodworking-dept208032_pg1/?sessionid=cca350f84b07da895590420e79eecba7eba68815

    Cheers 😉

    #5662
    Anonymous
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    Hi Ken. Here’s my take after building mine. I bot one that looks exactly like the green “Veritas Front Vices”. There are two in that thumbnail. I bot the one on the right, had many problems installing it, so that one is out. If I had it to do all over again, I’d buy one as close to what Paul uses since he obviously doesn’t have problems with it.

    #5663
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks Jeff,

    I was looking at the “Veritas Front Vices” and remembered you saying that you had problems installing it. HaHa something as simple as choosing a vice, is giving me a hard time 🙂

    #5667
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    You’re welcome Ken. That vice is sold under about three different names (Veritas, Woodriver & Grizzly). I can’t see any difference. With that said, I have nothing against the vice in the same thumbnail on the left. It doesn’t have the collets that make it so difficult to mount. But, I would consider getting one that has metal almost to the bench top like Paul’s. It would eliminate any flex at the top like I have now. They ain’t that pretty to look at IMHO, but I would bet they perform very well. My 2 cents.

    This is actually a great topic, since a good vice is critical. I’d keep going on this thread and get some other opinions before you make a decision. Best.

    #5669
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Jeff,

    I’m thinking of going with this one in the pic for  now. It has some good reviews, ( if you can believe them all ) HaHa I don’t  get that many replies to my posts buddy, so I have to make my mind up, but I think this one will be ok.

    Thanks again for the input 😉

    Ken

    #5671
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sure thing Ken. I like the looks of it. High steel jaws, looks like its easy to mount and solid, and I’m guessing by the lever it’s a quick release model. Let me know how it works for you when you when you get a chance. I may change mine out.

    #5672
    George Bridgeman
    Participant

    When building my bench, I picked up a Record 52 1/2E from eBay for £25 which I picked up instead of having delivered. I installed it fine but didn’t put bolts in all the holes in the bottom because the apron is in the way. There are four holes but I only got bolts into the two at the back on the bottom and two on the front plate. Still in there solid! The 9″ wide jaws are great and the quick release is handy.

    I haven’t used the Axminster one so can’t comment on it. Think they’re very similar to the vintage ones though.

    George.

    "To know and not do is to not know"

    #5673
    Paul Sellers
    Keymaster

    Let me add a concern or two if I can. First off I think, George that you took the best route with a secondhand Record with a little age to it. New Record vises are Asian imports and not the standard of the old Records made in Sheffield, UK. The old Record vises will last you for a hundred years of part-time use and 99 years of fulltime trouble free use.
    I have been exchanging imported vises for 20 years. In my first school in the US we were forced to start buying imported vises because we couldn’t get domestic made vises for anywhere near a reasonable cost. We bought from Woodcraft thinking that would be a good source but eventually we ended up buying replacement parts that cost us more in the end. Since then, I haven’t found an Asian vise that has lasted longer than a year and that os with very much part time student use. On the other hand, I am using a a Record vise that has been in fulltime use for 75 years. I also use a Woden vises at the school here in the UK. They are all second hand and once cleaned up and in situe, work like new. I have had one go bad and have not had time to work out what’s wrong with it. I recently bought five Record vises for the workbench build and I think I paid about £20 each. They all worked perfectly well but some need half an hour’s clean up.
    Is there a really good Asian import? The only way of knowing is if you know someone who has owned and used one every day for several hours a day as is the case with my vises as a working craftsman. I have beaten on mine for decades and everyone I have ever owned was made in in the first half of the last century.

    #5675
    Florian
    Participant

    Hey Ken,

    the blue ones offered by axminster seem to be from York of the Czech Republic. They are very solid. I use one with 10 1/2 inch jaws that opens up to 15 1/2 inches. I bought it here:

    http://www.fine-tools.com/schraub.htm

    Before I was looking for used record’s from ebay but since they are mainly offered in the UK, shipping of the heavy item would have been almost as expensive as a new York-Vice.

    The main difference between those metal vices is in the way you engage the quick release.

    Mine is engaged by turning it twice counterclockwise, some others feature a lever to activate it.

    I like the wooden vices a lot but since most of them ask for a lot more effort to be installed than the ones Paul uses, I will stick with mine until I am “grown-up” (if ever ;-)) as a woodworker and decide then if I want to switch.

     

    Florian

    I enjoy working wood in Germany.

    #5676
    David Gill
    Participant

    Paul

    I fitted a Irwin Record 10 1/2″ jaws with quick release and a jaw dog (53ED) to my bench about 18 months ago I was impressed with the vice when I got it it seemed to be well made and at 19kg was very substantial , I have used it quite regularly since and it seems to still be working well. Of course the key will be the quality of the material used only time will tell . I do not know where the vice was manufactured but did realise it would have been made in some low cost country .

     

    Wigan, Lancs. England :

    #5684
    STEVE MASSIE
    Participant

    Hi Ken,  I am lucky enough to own a Record 52E that I have had for at least 25 years and was used on a cheap make shift bench I once owned. Funny thing I was thinking of selling it as I was going to build a Nicholson Style Bench but have since changed my mine .  I am currently building Paul’s Bench which will be a tad under 5′ because I could not find any decent 2 X 4’s other than 10′.  So this vise will have a new home and not collating dust any longer.

    Good luck on your find.

     

    Steve

    Steve Massie, I live in the great State of Florida, US

    #5702
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks to everyone for all there Input. As cost is playing a big part in this for me, I’m going for the one in the pic. It comes with a lifetime guarantee,and all the reviews are very good. HaHa you pays your money and takes your chance as they say. 🙂

    Good job guys many thanks

    Ken 😉

    #6577
    Scott
    Participant

    When building my bench, I picked up a Record 52 1/2E from eBay for £25 which I picked up instead of having delivered.

    Wow. Good find. Record vises are pretty expensive on Ebay here in the US. The 52 1/2 model goes north of $100, and the 53 around $150-$200 US.

    We have Jorgensen bench vices in the states. I have heard positive (albeit not raving) reviews, but I have never tried one. There is also Milwaukee Quick Release Bench Vises, which are manufactured in the US and appear to be well made, but they go for $200-$240 depending on size.

    I would like to find myself an antique “Instantaneous” vice like the one that Tony Konovaloff  has on his bench.

     

    -Scott Los Angeles

    #6580
    George Bridgeman
    Participant

    I would like to find myself an antique “Instantaneous” vice like the one that Tony Konovaloff has on his bench.

    I’d love to see one of those in action. Think he’s right in saying it has to be seen to be believed! Have you read Tony’s book? It’s an incredible read – he does absolutely everything by hand and explains it all really well.

    George.

    "To know and not do is to not know"

    #6610
    ejpotter
    Participant

    Love Tony’s book and website.  His craftsmanship is very inspiring.

    Just moved to NE Ohio

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