Skip to content
Woodworking Masterclasses
Facebook Instagram
  • Register Now
  • Video Library
  • GalleryExpand
    • Bedside Cabinet GalleryExpand
      • Assembly Table Gallery
      • Bathroom Cabinet Gallery
      • Bench Stool Gallery
      • Blanket Chest Gallery
      • Bookends Gallery
      • Book Shelves Gallery
      • Breadboard-end Cutting Board Gallery
      • Carrying Tote Gallery
      • Chess Board Gallery
      • Chest of Drawers Gallery
      • Christmas Gallery
      • Coasters Gallery
      • Coat Rack Gallery
      • Coffee Table Gallery
      • Corner Shelf Gallery
      • Craftsman-style Lamp Gallery
      • Dining Chair Gallery
      • Dovetail Boxes Gallery
      • Fly Swat Gallery
      • Frame Saw Gallery
    • Foot Stool GalleryExpand
      • How to Make a Table
      • Joiner’s Mallet Gallery
      • Joiners’ Toolbox Gallery
      • Keepsake Box Gallery
      • Laptop Desk Gallery
      • Leaning Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Mitre Box Gallery
      • Occasional Table Gallery
      • Picture Frames Gallery
      • Rocking Chair
      • Sawhorse Gallery
      • Shaker-Style Bench Seat Gallery
      • Shaker Stool Gallery
      • Sofa Table Gallery
      • Stepladder Gallery
    • Trestle TableExpand
      • Tool Cabinet
      • Tool Chest Gallery
      • Walking Cane Gallery
      • Wall Brackets Gallery
      • Wallclock Gallery
      • Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Winding Sticks Gallery
      • Wooden Plane Gallery
      • Wooden Spokeshave
      • Wooden Tray Gallery
      • Workbench Gallery
      • Other user projects vol. I
      • Other user projects vol. II
      • Submit Photos to Gallery
  • About Us
  • News
  • FAQsExpand
    • General FAQs
    • Workbench FAQs
  • Contact
Account Login
Woodworking Masterclasses

Oil for Tools

Search
Previous Back to: Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration19 Replies

Welcome! / Forums / General Woodworking Discussions / Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration / Oil for Tools

  • This topic has 19 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 3 years, 2 months ago by Mark68.
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 20 total)
1 2 →
  • Author
    Posts
  • Mark68
    25 October 2019 at 5:51 pm #621469

    Hi all

    What oil should I use to help prevent rust build up on chisels, planes, etc? Is there a particular brand that’s recommended?

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    Scott
    25 October 2019 at 6:20 pm #621475

    I have tried Camellia oil (recommended by Lie Nielsen), but I have found that it tends to bead up after wiping the tool down. If I do not use the tool for a while, I find the beads of oil become sticky like sap. Not recommended.

    Lately I have been using CRC 3-36 Lubricant after I read an article in one of the woodworking magazines. It wipes on without beading, and seems to do a great job. I use it on my bandsaw table as well. Not cheap at US$17 for a 16oz bottle, but it lasts a long time and is good for long term storage.

    Hope that helps.

    -Scott Los Angeles

    Settings
    YrHenSaer
    25 October 2019 at 7:44 pm #621489

    3-IN-1 OIL…… get in in any bike-shop. Cheap as chips and works like, well ….. oil.

    All lubricants will oxidise sooner or later, some quicker than others.

    Settings
    Thomas Brown
    25 October 2019 at 8:09 pm #621500

    I picked up a can of GT85 Chain Lubricant with Ptfe Aerosol from Aldi for my bike, seems to do a good job on all my tools as well.
    Don’t store them in a damp place and wrap them up in cloths to store when not in use.
    My ‘workshop’ is an open ended shed and anything left in there will quickly get damp, so my bench vice gets a liberal spray as well, then that too is wrapped up in cloths, that seems to do a good job.

    Settings
    Mark68
    25 October 2019 at 10:13 pm #621538

    Thanks all

    I can find the 3 in 1 oil easily enough, that and some cloths and I should be fine

    *thumbs up*

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    YrHenSaer
    25 October 2019 at 10:58 pm #621547

    Well, whatever oil floats your boat, never, never ever leave oily rags lying around!

    Air-tight tin or a bucket of water.

    Settings
    Dave Ring
    26 October 2019 at 11:46 am #621685

    Mineral oil. It works about as well as anything. Also, it’s cheap, universally available (in drugstores), doesn’t get gummy and doesn’t stink. Some folks use baby oil, which is just scented mineral oil and often cheaper than pure USP mineral oil since it doesn’t have to be pure enough for internal consumption.

    Dave

    Settings
    Mark68
    26 October 2019 at 2:10 pm #621711

    I just bought some 3 in 1 oil. I’ll check out mineral oil next time though.

    Thanks all for your help.

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    Benoît Van Noten
    27 October 2019 at 9:01 am #621949

    It seems PTFE interferes with finishing. Avoid this.

    Settings
    Mark68
    27 October 2019 at 9:51 am #621959

    Will do, thanks for the warning

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    YrHenSaer
    27 October 2019 at 10:52 am #621966

    It’s all about how many ways you can skin a cat, as the saying has it.

    Let’s go back to the original poster’s question:
    “What oil should I use to help prevent rust build up on chisels, planes, etc?”

    The question is about stopping rust, (ferrous oxide) which is caused by three things coming together simultaneously: Iron, Water and Oxygen. If you can find a way to remove any one of those three, there will be no rust.

    There are two basic answers emerging:
    1 – Cover everything in an oil-substance – take your pick from the variations available – many of which will oxidise sooner or later.
    or
    2 – WD-40 – It does what it says on the tin: “Water Displacement (formula) No:40” -it, too dries out in time, messy but it works.

    There is a third option. Take away one of the three constituents and that is to stop the water from the air getting to the Iron tools in the first place.

    I now work in a heated workshop in mid-Wales and I don’t have this problem any longer, but previously my workshop was a draughty old garden-shed…. A rust trap in the winter to the point where originally I moved everything out for the duration of the winter.

    Here’s my eventual solution; it’s not for everyone, but it works, and this is what I did.

    I had a large wardrobe-sized cabinet which I kitted out to store all the vulnerable stuff, planes, chisels etc. allowing good air circulation inside. This meant perforating the shelves etc with 3/4 inch holes. The whole (outside, in my case to save inside space) was covered in 1 inch thermal insulation board; top, bottom, sides and both back and the doors. Next, was a shallow false bottom inside, also perforated with holes about 3 inches deep into which I wired a 15 watt Pygmy light bulb, attached to a plug-in timer. By hit and miss and looking at a thermometer I arrived at four half-hour on-times equally through the day. (NOTE: This was before modern regulations about filament light bulbs: you need the heat so it must be a filament type bulb – LEDs don’t work : no heat). I aimed to maintain an average temperature inside around 18- 20 degrees C. It is crucial to get circulating air, so no overcrowding!

    The rationale is this: Water from the atmosphere can only condense on metal if the temperature of that metal falls below the dew-point temperature for that particular air-condition. Without going into some elaborate thermodynamics of air, you are simulating summer conditions within a small controlled space and preventing the metal temperature from dropping anywhere near the dew-point.

    (If you want more info on the principles, do a Wiki on the term: ‘Psychrometric’)

    Costly? A little bit. Elaborate? So what… it works. Worth it? Certainly, in terms of worry; how much are your tools worth to you? This way you can protect an entire tool-kit in one hit.

    Settings
    Mark68
    27 October 2019 at 10:58 am #621968

    Thanks for the reply YrHenSaer

    I’m going to buy a good dehumidifier (Desiccant model). That will sort it out.

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    YrHenSaer
    27 October 2019 at 12:12 pm #621979

    Hmmmm…… Dehums?

    Can I be absolutely honest?

    I’d buy a 40 gallon drum of 3-in-1 before a desiccant dehum.

    Why?

    They are intended for very basic, localised (table-top within a couple of feet) human comfort in HOT countries….. in colder climates their desiccant performance is often compromised by the lower temperatures. The desiccant material has a very finite moisture holding capacity. It falls off dramatically as it absorbs water to the point where they stop working. Plus they are not quick to regenerate, needing a lot of energy.

    Similarly, other type of dehumidifier, using a refrigeration unit, is also designed for human comfort in hot climates. Being a refrigeration machine, their extraction rate, commensurate with the refrigeration capacity, also decrease drastically as the temperature goes down.

    Add to all that the cost….. unless you can get a free dehum, that is.

    Seriously, if they were that good for rust prevention, every woodworker would have one.

    good luck

    Settings
    Mark68
    27 October 2019 at 12:29 pm #621982

    Apparently it’s suitable for use in flats, apartments, 3 bedroom houses, 5 bedroom houses, garages, boats, caravans, holiday homes – anywhere you have a damp problem. Or so the “sales pitch” tells us.

    A Desiccant can work in temperatures down to 1 degree, and it also acts as a heater as it pushes out air 11-12 degrees warmer than the air taken in.

    The one I’m thinking of getting also has:

    http://www.meaco.com/dehumidifier/home-dehumidifiers/meaco-dd8l-zambezi-dehumidifier-is-a-which-best-buy?filter=5-1-12-16&withawards=1

    – Sterilising Ioniser
    – Energy Saving Laundry (you can even dry your clothes with it)
    – On / Off Timer
    – Displays the room relative humidity and temperature
    – Removes up to 8 litres of water a day

    Here’s one of the Meaco specialists explaining the difference between Compressor and Desiccant models:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwY1jVwb_40

    I don’t think it will completely solve my problem but if I situate it nearer to my tools, I think it will solve a lot of my problems. Especially as I will also be coating them in 3-in-1 oil. That said, it’s pricey at £260.

    I hear what you say about localised comfort in hot countries, but as mentioned above, people have been using them upstairs in a 3 bedroom house, and it’s solved their problem. Also, the manufacturers seem to be UK based so I’m hoping they are aware of the needs of UK residents and what it would take to combat a damp/moisture build-up problem.

    All the above is what I’ve read/watched. However, you have given me pause for thought because I was all but certain to buy the above Dehumidifier.

    "Sawdust? I think you'll find that's man-glitter."

    Settings
    Ed
    27 October 2019 at 9:55 pm #622118

    This is a little off topic: Sometimes, I must deal with mechanical assemblies in the wood shop on which I want to coat threads with a heavy grease to protect against galling and other such processes. Without thinking, I grabbed my tube of Phil Wood Waterproof Grease from my bike box, then later worried about silicone. I contacted the manufacturer and learned there is zero silicone. So, I can continue to use it on frog threads and things like that.

    For day to day surfaces, I use both camelia oil (most often) and 3-in-1. Both work for me.

    I’ve lined my toolbox with a material that looks like shelf liner, but is impregnated with a corrosion inhibitor.

    Settings
  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 20 total)
1 2 →
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Log In

Security and Payments

Payments on this site are processed using stripe.com and gocardless.com. Customer's credit card details or bank details are stored on the secure servers of stripe.com or gocardless.com This entire site is secured by SSL.

About Our Company

Woodworking Masterclasses is a trading name of Rokesmith Ltd

Rokesmith Ltd



About Rokesmith Ltd | Privacy Policy | Terms and Conditions | About Us


Useful Links

© 2023 - Rokesmith Ltd

  • Register Now
  • Video Library
  • Gallery
    • Bedside Cabinet Gallery
      • Assembly Table Gallery
      • Bathroom Cabinet Gallery
      • Bench Stool Gallery
      • Blanket Chest Gallery
      • Bookends Gallery
      • Book Shelves Gallery
      • Breadboard-end Cutting Board Gallery
      • Carrying Tote Gallery
      • Chess Board Gallery
      • Chest of Drawers Gallery
      • Christmas Gallery
      • Coasters Gallery
      • Coat Rack Gallery
      • Coffee Table Gallery
      • Corner Shelf Gallery
      • Craftsman-style Lamp Gallery
      • Dining Chair Gallery
      • Dovetail Boxes Gallery
      • Fly Swat Gallery
      • Frame Saw Gallery
    • Foot Stool Gallery
      • How to Make a Table
      • Joiner’s Mallet Gallery
      • Joiners’ Toolbox Gallery
      • Keepsake Box Gallery
      • Laptop Desk Gallery
      • Leaning Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Mitre Box Gallery
      • Occasional Table Gallery
      • Picture Frames Gallery
      • Rocking Chair
      • Sawhorse Gallery
      • Shaker-Style Bench Seat Gallery
      • Shaker Stool Gallery
      • Sofa Table Gallery
      • Stepladder Gallery
    • Trestle Table
      • Tool Cabinet
      • Tool Chest Gallery
      • Walking Cane Gallery
      • Wall Brackets Gallery
      • Wallclock Gallery
      • Wall Shelf Gallery
      • Winding Sticks Gallery
      • Wooden Plane Gallery
      • Wooden Spokeshave
      • Wooden Tray Gallery
      • Workbench Gallery
      • Other user projects vol. I
      • Other user projects vol. II
      • Submit Photos to Gallery
  • About Us
  • News
  • FAQs
    • General FAQs
    • Workbench FAQs
  • Contact
Login Account
Search