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16 August 2022 at 1:58 pm #770600
Thank you Artur. I like the approach your suggesting. I am new to this part of woodworking. Will do.
15 August 2022 at 9:14 pm #770532I made a small table that someone offered money for. The table has flaws though: a dado is on the wrong side of of one of the drawer sides (it was fixed though), low grade plywood for the bottom of the table, over 15 nail holes pegged, and the inside of a screw hole shows on one of the front legs. I offered the person pics of the imperfections so they know the table is not as perfect as the pics appear to make it. The joinery and drawer however are near perfect and the top looks got nice. Does anyone feel this is the right/wrong approach for pricing a table of this quality? If this was flawless, I have a good idea of what I would ask for. I have no idea what to price it.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.28 November 2018 at 2:13 am #553565Hi Sanford. Thank you. Yes, the drawers will have half-blinds. For the top, what I would like to do is make it with flat panels and then fill the recess panels with different colored inlay slightly proud of the rails and then plane them flush.
I’ve been making some dressers with panel and groove sides, as well as the back and have decided to try s different design. The glue-up is challenging. It can be difficult to keep everything square, especially if drawers are made instead of doors. A bigger challenge will be fitting the dovetail dividers that run perpendicular. These will also be panel and groove. I’ve made a series of sketches to help me plan for the dado grooves that will hold the shelves. Here’s one.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.1 November 2018 at 1:18 am #552955Thicknessed the tail board to 1/2″. This probably helped with flatness. More importantly, I improved my layout procedure. Looked some things up online and realized I was making layout mistakes as u suspected. I used 2 marking gauges which helped me layout more accurately on both the tail and pin board. I set one marking gauge to the thickness of the tail board and the other to the depth of the pins. Also took your suggestion about making the pins smaller. They are 3/8.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.30 October 2018 at 1:50 am #552896Correct. Instead of 9/16, my rebate was 10/16 or 5/8. Yes, I agree with the width of the rebate not matching the layout of the front of the drawer. Since the drawer front was bowed, I remember having to rock the tail board from one side of the pin board to the other when laying the pins out. This could have caused an alignment error since the tail board was not fully seated against the pin board. I’m thinking the scrap piece of wood clamped to the pin board to take the bow out will result in the tail board being fully seated and maybe reveal discrepancies.
This has greatly helped Ed. I appreciate your time. I would not have come to these ideas without our responses. I have at least 4 more half blind corners to make. I’ll post more pics hopefully with better results. I’ll be sure to incorporate our ideas.
29 October 2018 at 10:06 pm #552890Rebate on tail board is 5/8 wide. Yes, rebate was used to trace. Both sides are like this. I remember both tail and pin board being bowed. This could lead to an out of square end on both boards and therefore an offset issue. I’ll clamp a piece of wood to each board when squaring the ends with my #4 Stanley. I’ll do the same when sawing the tails and pins. Not sure if this would matter.
29 October 2018 at 7:49 pm #552888Thanks for the reply. I used Paul’s method. I rebated the back of the tail board by 1/8 which left the tails at 5/8 thickness. The pins are 1/2 inch wide. Too wide? I cut some on a narrower board with better results. Again, thank you.
21 March 2018 at 1:21 am #503857I think you can if you’re in an area where there is a market for hand made furniture or whatever you build. For example, when Paul lived in Texas he made fly swats and has posted he sold 12 or so of them at a time with no problem. I think he lived near a national park. I’m not saying he moved to America to sell fly swats near a national park but I believe that his experience in woodworking in the UK gave him the ability to be very versatile. So to me this means Paul pursued his dream to be a woodworker…ended up in the U.S…and was skilled and good enough to make whatever he could sell to substain a working wage that supported his family. He taught classes in the evening as well.
What all this means to me is that one day if someone sees something that I build and wants to pay me to make them one, whatever that would be, my answer would be “Absolutely!” I would put whatever personal project I was building on temporary hold and make them what they wanted. BUT, that does not mean I would stop making what I want to make for myself because then I would not be growing as a woodworker. So let’s say the person asked me to make them a chest of some kind. I do and I get paid. So does this mean I go into only the chest making business. Personally, that’s not for me. I would eventually feel like a machine and dread going into the shop because I would have to make the same thing over and over. If other people wanted chests made by me because they saw the one I made the customer, yes I would build more because that’s the bread butter item that would be currently making me money but eventually I feel that I would stop making them if the demand continued and continued. Like I said earlier, I would feel like a machine. But then maybe my chest would lead the customers I sold to wondering what else could I make them such as tables, chairs, doors, cabinets, dressers, etc. and the process could possibly continue. This is the process I’m interested in. This process seems more like craftsmanship. The customer probably wouldn’t care if it was or wasn’t but then again maybe they would but it wouldn’t matter because I would care. I would care and love the idea and process of making something by hand that’s my design and knowing that what I made them will last forever because of the joinery I used to make it along with the tools and method I used to make it.- This reply was modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Anthony Greitzer.
7 March 2018 at 1:34 am #491572Nice Dave. Your right about things falling apart after 5 years. It’s one of the reasons I got into woodworking. I grew up with things that lasted AND my family did not pay a fortune for it.
I can hear the Whirlpool workers now, “If you want to dance, you gotta pay the band. If you want to play, you gotta pay the man.” WelL, crime doesn’t pay either.
24 February 2018 at 12:25 am #482552Larry,
I won’t be self-employed becacause at 57 when I retire from teaching I’ll be collecting my teacher pension. I’m grandfathered into the old teacher pension system so the changes currently happening won’t effect me. While I receive my pension, I’ll be woodworking and making quality furniture that I wish to have. My wife and I will also be attending craft fairs to showcase some of my items that I’ve mastered. For example, the toy chest I made for a neighbor as a gift for their new baby, which lead to another neighbor offering to pay for one. They will receive one but as a gift, not for money. I’m already locked into a different project right now so their toy chest won’t be ready till Christmas.
I’m an ex-athlete (nonprofessional) and learned to except constructive criticism from people as challenges. Thank you for the motivation. Don’t need the the good luck advice. I make my own, just like some of the furniture in my shop as well as my house. Honestly, thank you. I’m always looking for new sparks to light my fire.
23 February 2018 at 1:31 am #480127I’m 43 and one of the very many reasons I’ve pursued woodworking is because I feel a calling to become independent from things like social security. In other words, I feel a growing need within myself to rely on myself. For example, if I want new cabinetry I want to have the ability to make it without spending 5,000 dollars. Here in the U.S. that’s actually not that unusually expensive for decent cabinets. Or, if I want a table in my kitchen, I can make a quality one without spending an arm and a leg. I use to think my journey in woodworking was about selling stuff in quantity so I can make extra money. Nope. I’m not a laborer. I’m a craftsman.
Instead, I like the idea and feeling of buying reclaimed lumber or maybe even free wood from demo. jobs and making what I need the way I want it. If this is conservationalism, I absolutely love it. This is new to me believe it or not. Here in the U.S., a frequently used process of getting what we need is throwing things out and buying more of the same poorly made stuff.
Great read Thomas. Thanks for starting this topic. You make a lot of good points.
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25 November 2017 at 9:44 pm #382697I have this issue as well. Sometimes I don’t. I use to feel super uncomfortable with Paul’s technique and at times still do. The uncomfortableness is fading but I have yet to get a square blade every time. I’m lefty and also will put more pressure on the right corner. One thing I noticed is that if I try to push the left side of the blade forward and pull back evenly, the blade stays more square.
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